The Last Drink In The Last Chance Saloon


It is roughly seventeen months since this project started. Despite all of the revelations from this blog, and from other ‘new media’ outlets, little has changed in the world of Scottish football. This might seem a strange claim given that the largest football club in the country has become insolvent and now sits on corporate death-row awaiting its execution. However, the major institutions that feed on the blood of Scottish football fans: the SFA; the SPL; and the newspapers- appear to have learned little from events in this time.

They still believe that the people who pay their wages are imbeciles. They still dish out fatuous lies and peddle disinformation as if Sir David Murray was still in his heyday. The hysterical exaggerations and tales of impending financial doom should be transparent to the businessmen who fill most of the Chairman roles at Scottish football clubs. Anyone with even a few minutes of business experience will see through the lies of the Scottish football establishment. These scare stories are not the issue. It is the dangling of long requested changes in the structure of the Scottish game that will present clubs from both the Scottish Premier League and the Scottish Football League with a dilemma.

From their public statements, it is clear that the driving forces behind this attempt at league-rigging are SFA Chief Executive Stewart Regan and SPL Chief Executive Neil Doncaster. Despite being paid to promote the Scottish game, they have spent recent weeks trying to convince advertisers and TV companies that their product is worthless without someone representing Rangers’ legacy playing in the SFL1 next season. It is as if Sevco Ltd was a panacea and that this new club will be guaranteed promotion to the SPL within a single season.

Let us be in no doubt. Scottish football faces a period of turmoil and some financial belt-tightening regardless of what happens in any of the upcoming votes. (If Servco Ltd are forced to start in SFL3, the nattering nabobs of the mainstream Scottish sports press will doubtless blame every player transfer and setback on ‘internet bampots’ and shortsighted fans of so-called ‘diddy teams’). The Scottish game became unsustainable and unhealthily unbalanced towards just two clubs. In an era when it is easy to watch the best football from every country all week long, we need to extract the cancers that have been devouring our game for over twenty years rather than battling to preserve them. Among the assorted symptoms of the illness facing our game are:

  • Scottish football has failed to develop a single stand-out talent since the early 1980s
  • Scottish football has been spending more than it takes in for far too long
  • Scottish football has fallen far behind global standards in the quality of entertainment it offers

Scottish football had become dull and uninteresting for all but the fans of the two clubs that could entertain thoughts of ever winning the league.

There is a now a golden opportunity for creative minds to remake the game. Instead, we have intellectual pygmies telling us that everything in Scottish football is fantastic and must be saved at all costs. What is worth saving? Declining attendances? A terrible set of TV contracts that do not realise the full value of the Scottish game? A national team that cannot qualify for any international competitions? We have a game that is viewed with universal contempt for both its lack of technical quality and the lopsidedness of its top division. This is where our game finds itself almost three decades after the “Souness Revolution” started at Rangers. The false economies started by David Holmes, and placed on steroids by David Murray, eventually devastated all around it. Rangers embodied the ideas that financial might made right and reckless spending was the key to success. Their demise should be a cautionary tale to others to get their house in order. Instead, the Scottish football establishment wants to send the signal that if you are going to fail, make sure you do it on a spectacular scale: we will make everyone else carry you if it goes wrong.

Mr. Doncaster trained as a lawyer and has an MBA. If Scottish football was a case study at a business school, anyone submitting a paper that recommended crushing the last remnants of fairness in the game to prop up a failed old-order would not get a passing mark. Doncaster in particular is failing. (Funny that Messers Doncaster & Regan find it so easy to predict the effects of Sevco Ltd playing in SFL3, but could not use these same skills to anticipate Rangers’ implosion. Even when the aforementioned ‘internet bampots’ had warned years earlier of a crisis brewing at Ibrox, the men with the crystal ball today were unable to see something that was so obvious). When the dust settles on this disaster one way or another, one can only hope that Doncaster and Regan have absented themselves. It is clear that they lack the imaginations required to improve our game. Our hopes for restoring the thrill of Scottish football now rests on the men who run the clubs in the SPL and the SFL. We must hope that they have the backbone to stand-up to being bullied and the foresight to realise that all that is being dangled by Regan & Doncaster can be obtained anyway- without sacrificing the game and without the hired hands for whom this all appears to be just a job.

If fairness fails and Sevco Ltd is able to field a team in the SFL1 next season, it is for each fan to make an individual decision on whether it is worth returning to watch a game played with loaded dice. For those who do decide to go back (I am still undecided), something will still be missing in the game. An unfillable void will have opened. The men who will vote on this decision have to realise that they are not just voting on short-term revenues. They are going to irreparably alter the Scottish game whatever happens. Money will ebb and flow in football in proportion to the excitement and quality of the competition. If fans believe that there is no competition because a winner is preordained, money will leave and it will stay gone.

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7,916 Responses to The Last Drink In The Last Chance Saloon

  1. Ianc says:

    dunloytim says:
    21/07/2012 at 3:25 pm

    rosemary’s baby

    And they shall forevermore be known as such. – Belter- Chapeaux

  2. campsiejoe says:

    McCoist would do well to remember the saying

    “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and prove it”

    The clown is a slabbering, inconsequential idiot

  3. Torrevieja Johnbhoy says:

    dunloytim says:
    21/07/2012 at 3:25 pm

    And on this signing embargo being lifted,as they are still in admin surely they can’t sign anyone and can’t untill they come out of admin
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    This is where I think we’re being deliberately mislead.
    RFC(IA) can’t sign anyone.It’s their membership that’s getting transferred so you’d think transfer embargo would go with it.
    However,it’s Sevco that want to sign players,not RFC(IA) and although they’ll take the membership,they’re disputing the embargo that comes with it,along with the 12 month embargo from the AT.
    (Does anyone think that Lord Carloway,after being instructed to ratify a decision by the SFA said”If I can’t make up my own mind,I’m off).
    Anyway,the confusing bit here is we never know who CG is speaking for.Sevco or RFC(IA) in his role as a shadow director.D&D should never have allowed this to happen.
    “Conflict of interest” seems to be a recurring theme with them.

  4. ExiledCelt says:

    Can anyone explain to me why Swally is taken to any SFA meetings other than to fill the room with charisma and enjoy the buffer – maybe to save on catering at Ibrox now CG has to pay for it!

    Even an actual manager like SAF never goes to FA meetings along with the Glazers – so why would CG think Swally needs to attend? Or has he been promoted to a board member since he has no team to coach?

    Or maybe CS does not trust Swally and cannot leave him alone in Ibroke for 10 mins…..

  5. Stanblack says:

    its another new SFA rule — anybody can attend meetings.

  6. Timalloy says:

    Did anyone else catch the World Football show on Radio Five Live last night?
    They were talking about match fixing in Turkey, and particularly the sanctions applied to Ferenbace (spelling?)
    Anyway the Turkish FA have a very lucrative tv deal, but only if ALL the big teams are in the league (beginning to sound familiar?) Their rules stated that if any team were found guilty of, or even attempting to fix a match, the penalty was automatic relegation. But with the prospect of losing millions of television revenue, they changed that to a club being docked 12 points.
    The Turkish FA then had another look at rule book and changed their code of practice to include,
    NOT charging the Team, but going after INDIVIDUALS instead. ( Sally/Jardine could have written this rule themselves)
    It was stated that the Turkish FA have one of the most lucrative tv deals in Europe, and all the other Turkish clubs agreed to these rule changes to keep the money rolling in.
    Methinks Donkey/Raygun will be flying to Istanbul shortly…….

  7. ExiledCelt says:

    Bear in mind this is the lovely people our adminsitrators are trying to keep as a customer base

    Also – the myth abouth the trouble happening after the screens went down is a myth – my rangers-nil supporting nephew and his fiends ran away from Manchester at 4pm as they saw this kickign off and watched the game in Carlisel – the trouble was started well before the game and TVs.

  8. Alan Stirling says:

    When the registration is transferred then the history and trophies associated with Rangers transfer to the newco (The Rangers FC)

  9. mechyfitter says:

    The sfa are a total disgrace,for a short while I thought that we were starting to turn a new leaf and make changes for the better for scottish football…….sheer delusion.
    I am so very close in disconnecting myself from scottish football,some may say that by going down that path the cheats have won….well what can be done to rid us of corrupt system ?
    We have had the publicity about “Sell-out Saturday “personally I would prefer their to be a “Stay-away Saturday”,boycott of matches till we get rid of these imbeciles

  10. jimbo milligan says:

    More posturing and defiance from fatsal for the hordes to lap up .

    Its a cynical ploy to get the hordes moving towards sevco season books . They have to peddle the surrender no stance or the gigs up for chuckie boy.

    A year out will kill sevco off – cant see that being allowed to happen.

  11. Timalloy says:
    21/07/2012 at 3:46 pm
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    Did anyone else catch the World Football show on Radio Five Live last night?
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    Taken to its logical conclusion this could leave Turkish football in the hands of organized crime. It’s the next step …

  12. Deefan says:

    How can you strip a club of titles and cups if that club has never won anything yet?

  13. kennymcluskey says:

    Sally will not walk away from deathco, of course he wont. The pennies that green throws him are

    a damn sight more than he will get elesewhere. (rumour has it that he was the one who

    crashed green’s rangerover, and is repaying from his salary).

    Sally, if they’re not walking away, whats happening to them all.

    Have the season ticket sales blown them all away?

    Maw, exactly where is Brechin?.

  14. Torrevieja Johnbhoy says:

    jimbo milligan says:
    21/07/2012 at 3:55 pm

    More posturing and defiance from fatsal for the hordes to lap up .

    Its a cynical ploy to get the hordes moving towards sevco season books . They have to peddle the surrender no stance or the gigs up for chuckie boy.

    A year out will kill sevco off – cant see that being allowed to happen.
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    Jimbo,
    I think time has run out on the season book plan.The first home game is on August 4th(A cup game though and may not be included anyway).
    How many do you think they’ll sell?.
    I think 20k would be optimistic.
    If the level of interest is the same as that for the “Mass Demonstration” in George Square this afternoon,then Sevco would be as well shutting up shop.

    http://pic.twitter.com/2zym3rEQ

    At the risk of repeating myself,If RFC have to rely on their loyal fans for survival,They’re dead!

  15. Barcabhoy says:

    Denial the order of the day…….

    McCoist has always been an interesting character. As a player he has to be given credit for making the most of what was very limited basics. He had no pace, he had poor technique, he could barely jump and he was never blessed with work rate .

    He was however exceptional at positioning himself and he had top class composure . This made for an outstanding goalscorer. He was a Scottish Gerd Muller. Except in one area, he rarely did it at the top level. In 60 international games he only scored a single goal in a major tournament, over 70 % of his goals came against minor nations, and he never scored a goal against a nation recognised as a world power.In fact the highest ranked country he scored against was Switzerland.

    Even his golden boot years included failure at European level with only 2 goals scored in 11 games. In short, in cricketing terms he was a flat track bully.

    However the game is full of players who have had a good career at a local level, and McCoist clearly is in that category. Locally excellent but flopped on the bigger stage.

    Which may explain his latest outburst . Now , I don’t think anyone is suggesting stripping any of the titles he won as a player. They were won fairly on the park. Even if Murray was engaging in the early stages of financial lunacy that would end up with Rangers fulfilling the clogs to clogs theory. Spending way beyond your means is of itself, not a reason to strip a club of a title.

    However every single trophy Rangers won when McCoist was Assistant to EBT king Walter , was illegally procured. I suspect deep down McCoist knows that on the big stage as a manager, when he’s on his own , he will flop again. Last season showed his incompetence. He failed in Europe twice, to poor teams, at the outset of the new season. He had the team who had , admittedly illegally, won 3 leagues . We had Traynor and the rest talking up the prospects under Whyte, and the bookies had Rangers as strong favorites to retain the title

    Yet he comprehensively failed. Ultimately it was this failure which did for Rangers. Had he managed the far from difficult task of beating minor opposition, then Euro funds would have been available to pay the tax and vat due last season. The trauma, for Rangers supporters , of the last 6 months could have been avoided, and the fate of their club could have been blamed on the FTT delivering a verdict everyone expected. This would have led to a more orderly transition to Newco, and in all probability a process which enabled RFC to retain an SPL place.

    The decision by HMRC to bring in administrators half way through a season, allowed fan protest to build, to become decisive in the final outcome. McCoist’s failing on the big stage, yet again in his career, was critical . Nobody other than HMRC was ever going to put Rangers into administration. With an easy route to CL monies open to Rangers, Whyte could and in my view would have paid 2011/12 PAYE and VAT. He could then have blamed the FTT and Murray and retained the sympathy of many SPL Chairmen.

    There would have been little time for momentum to build amongst fans and RFC Newco would have been shoehorned into the SPL during this close season.

    McCoists lack of ability killed that opportunity. No wonder Charles Green was and is looking to get rid of him at the first opportunity.

    The rest of us however should be grateful. A decent manager would have enabled the great con to be played out.

    No wonder McCoist wants to deflect attention away from his own role. He did more than anyone else at Ibrox recently to ensure Rangers exposure and humiliation.

  16. Essex beancounter says:

    slimshady61 says:
    21/07/2012 at 12:31 pm
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    ExiledCelt says:
    21/07/2012 at 10:52 am
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    I support my country, but from the comfort of my own armchair.

    I wouldn’t pay a penny to watch Scotland today, I spent too many evenings in the late 60s, the 70s and early 80s, getting soaked on the terraces of Hampden while listening to the “home” crowd, under the protection of a nice big protective roof on the west terracing, hurl abuse at several players from my team.

    Johnstone, McNeill, Hay, Macari, McGrain (moved to left back to accommodate Jardine) and, worst of all, Dalglish, whose treatment improved only marginally after his transfer to Liverpool in 1977 – all suffered from their own “fans”.

    The SFA has never really made the effort to be all-inclusive, and some things will never change, at least as long as CO is its president.

    54 (“…caps, Mr McGrory? you must be joking….”) to 0

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    I must echo slim’s extremely valid point.

    I lived in Kings Park from 73-79 and often popped over the hill, sometimes via the Beechwood.

    The abuse was thrown at those players, for one reason and one reason only.

    Jock Stein once commented re the McGrain ” move” to left back along the lines of:

    “….we new we had probably the best right back in the world, but now we know we also have the best left back…”

    PS as slim says, my worst memories were getting soaked in the freezing rain, always coming from the west, but not damping the spirits of the anti-Celtic boo-boys, all huddling nice and dry under a “nice big protective roof on the west terracing”…aka the Mount Florida End.

    PPS it also cost me a small fortune so I am well qualified to comment about those days!

  17. Fritz Agrandoldteam says:

    jimbo milligan says:
    21/07/2012 at 3:55 pm

    A year out will kill sevco off – cant see that being allowed to happen.
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    The beauty is……..a year in is gonna kill them off too! 🙂

  18. tell the truth rangers says:

    BarcaBhoy “Spending way beyond your means is of itself, not a reason to strip a club of a title.”
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    soon will be with new uefa roles – if only they could be backdated!

  19. Barry C Loner says:

    You do have to wonder what the SFA is so keen to preserve. For the last 20 years, Scottish Football has been in sharp decline. As a nation, we are in the fourth or fifth seeded pot for international tournaments. Our clubs,over the past few years, have fallen to European defeats to clubs from supposedly inferior leagues. In recent qualifying campaigns, and this despite both Celtic and Rangers paying top dollar for players, both sides managed to fail to beat teams with a fraction of their turnover and salaries budget.

    Yet, despite very clear evidence of systemic failure, the best our leaders have managed in 20 years is the odd think tank and precious little else.

    In the late 1980’s, I played in an amateur football tournament in Sweden. The standard of facilities simply beggared belief. And it was repeated across Sweden. Wherever we visited, we were confronted with sports facilities of the very best quality. At the time, at home, we were still risking horrible third degree burns on the red blaze at Shieldhall.

    Now this Rangers shambles has its origins in a corporate world where wrong doing is de rigeur, and the worst crime is being caught. But it is but a mere sideshow to a footballing industry in this country that has been asleep at the wheel for a couple of decades. Yet, despite the poverty of the product, the cretinous behaviour in some boardrooms, and the seemingly endless conveyor belt of terminally fuddish leaders of our game (Ernie Walker, Jim Farry, George Peat, Campbell Ogilvie and Gordon Smith to name but a few) the same old faces continually pop up, proving beyond all doubt that the true definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results.

    If these SFA and SPL half-wits can see no better future for our game, and actually believe the last 20 years is something to be proud of, then I am afraid all is lost. Rangers demise should have been the 50,000 volt shock that had our leaders demanding change. Instead, they expended their energy concocting cunning plans to save a club who, in the post Souness era, showed a staggering contempt for the rest of Scottish Football.

    More than 30 odd years ago, I was playing youth football in quite outstanding facilities in Sweden. All those years later, my kids football teams can’t find places to train through the winter months. And the SFA still cannot figure out why we slide down the rankings, whilst a country like Sweden is a regular feature in World Cups.

    I do despair, I really do.

  20. john clarke says:

    Barcabhoy says:
    21/07/2012 at 4:08 pm
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    ..’..Denial the order of the day…….
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    A great, and I think, objective dissection and analysis of McCoist both as player and Manager.

    I would imagine that of the pool of Scottish managers from which an appointment to RFC might have been made, none would have made such a hames of it.

  21. dunloytim says:

    On this continuation of history from dead club to rosemary’s baby if[ and it is a massive if] they should manage to win the scottish cup next season will they be allowed to play in europe or will they be told to take a hike as they are a new club and don’t meet the criteria to play in europe or will super dictate to eufa that they have been punished enough.
    What’s the french for gtf

  22. Ianc says:

    Barry C Loner says:
    21/07/2012 at 4:38 pm
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    You do have to wonder what the SFA is so keen to preserve
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    Post of the month Barry. Similarily played in Germany. Same stark contrast in even small towns.
    Good god they had showers! Grass!
    Then back to the clinker at home. Coalvilles must have made a mint. Still got it in my knees.

  23. Ianc says:

    What’s the french for gtf

    Grande Tourisme Fvvvoff

  24. threeamigos says:

    I will never go to watch our national team again as long as those devious,corrupt individuals are in power at Hampden Park.We have two non Scottish heads of our game whom you would think would have no agenda and whose prime function would be dealing in fairness.Recent events have shown that this is not the case So,one has to assume that they are being led by those who have a long standing aIllegiance to Rangers(IA)/SevCo whatever.I acknowledge the opposing stance taken by other posters on this blog but I refuse to legitimise the actions of these people by parting with my hard earned cash and, as a consequence, maintaining them in position. I will come back when I’m convinced its a level playing field.

  25. James says:

    Barcabhoy:
    “EBT king Smith..” get in! DM as others have said, have been rather quiet recently… amongst many others. Chico and co not been for dinner recently? If they can take Murdoch to task, they can take DM too. The evidence is there. Ally’s projection is possibly down to his own short comings…as Barcabhoy said.

  26. dunloytim says:

    lanc
    @4-48pm
    thanks

  27. NeutralAxis says:

    A (deliberately) Loose Cannon ?

    Ally McCoist’s language in today’s Sevco press release are quite contrary to those you might expect of someone who might reasonably be expected to be indentified as being an official spokesman for SevGers.

    “I can also assure every Rangers fan I will not be accepting any talk of stripping the club of titles.
    That is something we will never accept and everyone at the club shares this view.”

    These are not the words of a fledgling club looking to leapfrog all those actuall licensed football clubs already with an SFA mandate to play football.

    Is Mr McCoist actually a loose cannon ?

    His words surely cannot represent the official view of GerSev.
    Such a blatantly antagonistic stance would surely not be productive with regard to gaining membership of the SFA.

    Is Ally McCoist a loose cannon, representing a stance at odds with his employers ?

    Or, is it more likely that he is, I would suggest unwittingly, being given free reign to make such ridiculous outbursts in order that SevClub actually manage to avoid gaining SFA membership ?

    The authorities have made every effort, however ill advised, to allow Sevco a berth in Scottish Football.

    Might it actually be the case that his sheer bare faced and all pervading sense of entitlement and superiority has been deliberately been allowed to run away with itself completely unchecked in order that the worst case scenario is avoided ?

    They have to play football ?

  28. Essex beancounter says:

    “On behalf of the Scottish FA I would like to convey my condolences to the Walker family,” added George Peat.

    “It is a tragedy that we have lost Ernie and his successor, Jim Farry , in recent months; two men who presided over a golden era for Scottish football and the national team.
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    Whilst it would be totally unacceptable to criticise any person deceased, the old lineage just seems to keep rolling along….

    Plus ca change…plus c’est la meme chose.

    I wonder if the Daily Record has Smudger’s epitaph ready…?

    Me bad ?…definitely!

  29. Cortes says:

    I stopped attending Hampdump after the polite letter sent requesting either rotation of allocation of west and east terracings, or roofing the east terracing went unanswered. I apply that to concerts also.

  30. rab says:

    much angst sally

    i guess you better slow your much angst down

  31. Andy Fitzpatrick says:

    As I said,,SFA and SFL Protestant organisation for an ex Protestant team,,always has always w,,,,

  32. tigertim says:

    Who does McCoist think is trying to take titles away??
    I thought they were in discussion with the SFA, who were not investigating dual contracts as they are the appellant body?
    I thought that the SPL were has suspended the investigation for the moment?
    Where is the transparency that everyone talks about?
    It would appear to get the license that Rangers are asking for another 64 charges to be taken into consideration. At the same time while plea bargaining that they have already served their sentence while waiting for the trial to take place.

  33. sellick67 says:

    i feel privellaged over the past 18 months or so to have read so many articles on RTC.I thank each and every contriibutor for allowing me to be educated as well as enternained on this extremely terrific blog.Answers to questions have been quite exilarating along with views and comments.I do agree with the overall majority of opinion that this operation is being conducted to allow one club to suvive its wrong doings rather than take into consideration the views of the people who really matter i.e we the “Fans” Maybe its time however to have some sympathy toward Sevco and I feel that to do this we should introduce a National song sung by all opposition fans during Sevcos introduction to Scottish Football.My Suggestion Nobodys Child . younger readers check it out. A bit of fun any other suggestions
    ..

  34. Barry C Loner says:
    21/07/2012 at 4:38 pm
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    You do have to wonder ..
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    Great post Barry. I moved over here 30 years ago. The facilities you saw came from years of high tax and a socialist philosophy of investing in society. One of the key figures behind that (in Sweden) Olaf Palme, was assassinated in 1986. Tragic. But that’s another story.

    In my early years here I only really followed the national team from afar. But got interested in club football again when Dundee United and Aberdeen did so well in Europe. Funnily enough, the Gothenburg team that beat United over two legs was made up, essentially, of part-timers! Because these countries have continued to rely on home-grown talent they’ve been able to produce lots of high-quality players. And as you point out, they’ve bypassed us in the rankings.

    The facilities you mention are excellent, but the training methods, and the almost Germanic single-mindedness Scandinavians show has also taken them far. It’s probably worth mentioning too that the alcohol culture is quite different too.

    I grew up supporting the now defunct blue team. Lost interest though when I was old enough to understand the non-football stuff in Glasgow. But I began to pay a lot of attention to the Gers again during the past year and a half. It was a part of my childhood, after all. But I also saw a chance to get back to basics after the nonsense of checkbook football. To be honest, I’ve seen this crisis as a chance for all of Scottish football to get back on track. The country is bursting with potential stars of the future, if only we’d give them a chance and train them right. I see a big positive coming out of this in the form of young talent being scouted and signed up across the leagues. It will take a while, but I’m hoping to see us regain a respectful place in European competition and at international level. That said, I’m willing the current teams in Europe to get some results!

    As far as the Gers go, I’m pretty much discouraged. Not only by the financial issues, but by the fact that the fan base now seems to be led exclusively by radical types; even the official spokesmen appear to be from the ‘no-svrrender’ school of thought. And as for the silent majority of proper Gers’ fans I always thought existed, well, they’re proving to be a bit of a mir-age (the un-hyphenated version won’t post 😉

  35. MD2 says:

    I like this bit of McCoist’s statement:

    “We all need to get back to focusing on football but again my plans have been hampered as we have had to cancel a tour in the Highlands this weekend that would have helped us prepare for the season ahead.”

    Can anyone take him seriously when he thinks that Hawick (where they were due to play today) is in the Highlands…?

  36. tasavallan says:

    MD2 says:
    21/07/2012 at 6:25 pm

    Can anyone take him seriously when he thinks that Hawick (where they were due to play today) is in the Highlands…?

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    Comparing photos of Sally now and 12 months ago, I’d say he’s indulging in our national drink for solace. He does not look a well man. Did Wattie not tell him what he was handing over.

    Flywheel

  37. gunnerb says:

    Danish Pastry says:
    21/07/2012 at 6:10 pm

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    As far as the Gers go, I’m pretty much discouraged. Not only by the financial issues, but by the fact that the fan base now seems to be led exclusively by radical types; even the official spokesmen appear to be from the ‘no-svrrender’ school of thought. And as for the silent majority of proper Gers’ fans I always thought existed, well, they’re proving to be a bit of a mir-age.
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    Great post DP and the last paragraph above is one of the saddest things about the downfall of Rangers.If there are any lions out there still being led by donkeys then it is not yet too late to roar.

  38. Noname says:

    If we look at what has happened in Italy, Turkey and Argentina.

    Argentina were going to change the rules to prevent a top team from relegating. After fan pressure they didn’t.

    In Italy they demoted teams and stripped titles.

    In turkey it looks like they are bending the rules.

    Who do we want to be like?

    I was always suspicious of the Italian league but after their tough stance I hold it in much higher regard than the Turkish one (and possibly the Scottish one as it stands at the moment).

    Do the right thing and protect the brand. Once you have lost your dignity and integrity you never get it back – it always lingers.

  39. corsica says:

    dunloytim says:
    21/07/2012 at 4:45 pm

    On this continuation of history from dead club to rosemary’s baby if[ and it is a massive if] they should manage to win the scottish cup next season will they be allowed to play in europe or will they be told to take a hike as they are a new club and don’t meet the criteria to play in europe or will super dictate to eufa that they have been punished enough.
    What’s the french for gtf
    *******
    va t’en faire enculer (you can throw in an “espece de connard” at the end if you really want to be rude).

  40. Camus' gloves says:

    Corsica you take me back…

    I was once on a conference call where an indignant colleague responded to a preposterous request with “et tu voudrais aussi une photo de ma femme à poile?”

  41. Craig says:

    Noname in Italy they catapulted Fiorentina from the lowest division to the second division, so I would not shout about it.
    On another matter, as a Rangers fan I am disappointed that Ally has chosen to vent his frustration again, I thought he would have learned from the tribunal carry-on.

  42. Ianc says:

    Corsica

    Thanks.

    I can only translate car badges

  43. NeutralAxis says:

    Things seem to have got out of hand today at George Square. An overwhelming show of force from the peepil.

  44. campsiejoe says:

    Craig @ 6:49 pm

    The only problem with Sally’s statement, is that it is not driven by frustration
    It is no more than another blatant attempt at rabble rousing

  45. dunloytim says:

    Corsica@6-42pm
    merci ,don’t know if i could be that rude!

  46. Ianc says:

    Rabble rousing? Wheres JB these days?

  47. Allyjambo Taxpayer says:

    If Sevco do manage to fool Southampton into giving them £800,000 I wonder if Green intends using it to pay Hearts the £800,000 owed by oldco? Or will he use it to buy the villa somewhere in the south of France that he can use as his next ‘safe house’?

    On a more serious note, has anyone been able to work out from the various reports whether or not in this agreement, as yet unagreed, for SFA membership, there is still the sanction of paying the football debts of approx £3m? This was one of the main sanctions originally insisted upon, but in all the MSM reports, and from what I’ve read of the SFA statement, I’ve only read one report that catagorically said it was still in place, others that kind of skirted around it and more that totally avoided it. If it still is there, then delaying the transfer embargo could be a big mistake by Green as whatever warchest Ally Makenoise is likely to get will be severely reduced and may even turn negative 🙂 Then, when (lets be generous) they’ve saved up their pennies in a very successfull season in SFL3, they actually have a warchest, they can’t sign any new players!

    Turning to something I’ve read on Paul McConville’s blog, where it was suggested, by a guest blogger, that at least one of the known investors is interesting Interpol and that checking on others is almost impossible, even for major financial institutions, then it could be that, unsurprisingly, the SFA won’t be able to accept them as fit and proper, or as viable.

    With the SFA enquiries hitting a brick wall, leaving them with no altenative to refusing membership, which they don’t want to be seen to do, could it be that they are trying to make things as difficult for Sevco as possible (just Sevco, not RFC) in the hope that Green says ‘stuff you, I’m off to my new villa in the south of France!’ Leavng the door open for a much more acceptable newco in charge of newclub?

    The SFA have been seen to be pretty gutless (am I being too kind?) in this whole affair, and so, if they do have major doubts about Sevco, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they continue with their hamfisted efforts to cover their inability to take decisive action, and continue to dig themselves, and Scottish football, into a bigger hole.

  48. iainmcg says:

    I haven’t read all the posts, so apologies if this has already been said, but do they not get that sally going off on one dosesn’t actually work.
    Or are they just thick?

  49. scottc says:

    iainmcg says:
    21/07/2012 at 7:41 pm

    I haven’t read all the posts, so apologies if this has already been said, but do they not get that sally going off on one dosesn’t actually work.
    Or are they just thick?

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    I think the latter, iain. Those in charge are failing to keep him on a tight rein, either deliberately or because they, too, are thick. I can’t believe that he is knowingly hampering things. I don’t think he would do that. They, on the other hand are, by now, well aware of what it means to let him or SJ in front of a microphone/camera/reporter.

  50. Ianc says:

    Iain
    The Latter