Never A Penalty!


The Scotsman today is carrying a remarkable interview with former Rangers and Scotland coach Walter Smith. It is worth noting in a couple of respects.

This is the first interview (of which I am aware) that Walter Smith has given since withdrawing his short-lived bid to purchase Rangers. Since that time, Alex Thompson of Channel 4 News has been trying to get Smith to answer a few simple questions:

– Did you receive payment from any of the EBTs Rangers / Murray Group established to make tax-free payments to employees?

– If so, when did you receive these payments?

– If you received such payments, were they significantly after your employment with the club ended?

– If you received payments long after your employment ended, for what purpose were they made?

Of course, I have no way of knowing if the journalist, Alex Gordon, has ever heard of Alex Thompson or follows my twitter feed. Scottish journalist doing research? After recent reports that 83 Rangers employees had received tax-free payments through the EBT, it would be a fairly obvious line of questioning. That another former manager, Graeme Souness, received a series of payments through the EBT scheme ten years after he resigned also raises some awkward questions. If Mr. Smith did not receive any payments, or if such payments are easily explained, I am sure that he would have welcomed the opportunity to clear any misunderstandings. Oh well. back to you Mr. Thompson.

Walter Smith’s interview can be seen as part of the PR deluge of terrifying stories about the great disaster that will befall Scottish football if Sevco 5088 Ltd is not allowed to enter a team in the Scottish Football League system with instant promotion to the first rather than the third division. This past weekend has seen many such articles and we should get used to more shrieking hysterics as we approach some kind of decision point. (Such is the bureaucratic incompetence within the organisations that run Scottish football, no one is exactly sure when a final vote might take place).

Mr. Smith might be a genius at constructing anti-futbol defences (I do admire his pragmatic approach to coaching), but he is either being disingenuous in this article or is struggling to grasp the administrative details. Smith is reported as saying: “Ten years ago Motherwell went in to administration. Four years ago Gretna went defunct. So, surely the SFA should have put sanctions in place then? That’s why I am saying they have been negligent. Now we’ve got a free-for-all around Rangers and everyone is having a kick at them”

This is a great example of the type of factually incorrect statements that the Scottish media is fond of regurgitating. As the old cliche says- an untruth repeated often enough is eventually accepted as fact. So let us refresh Mr. Smith’s memory.

The SPL introduced the 10-point penalty for going into administration during a season, or being in administration at the start of season, for the beginning of the 2004/05 campaign. Motherwell (and Dundee) were already in administration when the new rule came into effect. Both clubs were able to conclude CVAs fast enough to avoid the 10-point penalties and  to continue the life of the existing legal entities. The same rules that were introduced then have been applied to Rangers. The SFA are a bumbling shambles, but let us assail them for their actual mistakes. It is not the SFA or SPL’s fault that HMRC want to pursue investigations of what happened at Ibrox in the last 11 years and would not agree to a CVA.

The case of Gretna is actually similar to what happened to Rangers FC. Gretna owed its creditors (including HMRC) more than it could pay and the club went into administration in 2008. Unable to fund a CVA that was acceptable, Gretna FC was liquidated. That was the end of the Gretna story. Supporters formed a new club, Gretna 2008 FC and were admitted to the East of Scotland Football League. (Those of us who would accept a Sevco 5088 Ltd team entering the third division are actually still offering this club a huge advantage over every other newly formed team). If only Gretna had Duff & Phelps on the case to promote fictions such as the one that says that a liquidated company lives on so long as its assets are sold as a job-lot rather than individually.

Mr. Smith appears to be deliberately trying to confuse us and drum up sympathy for the new club. The only punishment that has been administered in the Rangers saga was to the old Rangers FC for experiencing an insolvency event. The rule that applied this penalty has been on the SPL books for eight years! (The SFA does not need to have a separate punishment).

As yet, there have been no penalties applied for the oldco Rangers FC pocketing the millions of pounds that were deducted from players’ wages to be paid in tax while other clubs paid their dues.

As yet, there have been no penalties applied for oldco Rangers paying the majority of their players through a mechanism that is, at best, in violation of SFA and SPL rules. I expect that when the First Tier Tribunal (Tax) returns with its findings in Rangers’ appeal of the Big Tax Case, that use of an illegal tax strategy will be added to the list of offences. If found to be using the EBT scheme illegally, it will prove that Rangers obtained the benefit of paying its players with money it did not have. How can Smith complain about penalties that have not been levied yet?

We all know this stuff already, as I am sure, Mr. Smith does too. There is a studied ignorance that has become fashionable in certain circles of late. They pretend to not understand the facts. In this case, Smith is trying to drum up support for the notion that people have been “kicking Rangers while they are down” and “haven’t we been punished enough”?

Let us be fully aware of the truth: The Rangers Football Club plc has not yet been punished AT ALL for its actions of the last eleven years.

There is a simple way for Sevco 5088 Ltd to avoid all talk of sanctions and punishment. Apply for entry to the Scottish Football League third division without claiming that a transfer of the oldco’s SPL membership has taken place. By not forming any ties to the old club, Sevco 5088 Ltd can avoid any historical liabilities. My guess is that all concerned- the SFA, the SPL, and the clubs would breathe a sigh of relief and would be delighted to draw a line under this disaster. However, time is not on their side. If Sevco 5088 Ltd is to field a team of any description next season, an acceptable solution must be found quickly.

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5,668 Responses to Never A Penalty!

  1. Andy says:
    11/07/2012 at 11:20 pm
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    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/332305

    Why do they have a picture of Charles Green? His company/club didn’t compete in the league last season, and wouldn’t have any claim on that prize money.

  2. wolfman says:

    paulmac says:
    11/07/2012 at 11:58 pm
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    wolfman says:
    11/07/2012 at 11:39 pm

    wolfman says:
    11/07/2012 at 11:31 pm
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    The wife won’t agree to immigration!
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    What about emigration?
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    Fair Play, the In’s and Out’s are immaterial………….to be fair, the wife doesn’t agree to anything!…lol

  3. tell the truth rangers says:

    The Declaration of Arbroath looking good! hope this is true

    Michael Beattie‏@DrBeattie23
    @Rachel_Lynchx Arbroath FC announced tonight we will vote No to the Newco getting into the 1st division

  4. fisiani says:

    Come on people. This is the final day of influence.
    Bombard the SFL teams with support for a NO and derision for a YES.
    If the forces of darkness prevail by one vote tomorrow and you have not strained every sinew to support sporting integrity then you will have some of the blame.
    Tonight the wavering chairmen must know that Scotland simply wants the rules to be followed and SEVCO given no fear or favour.

  5. kennymcluskey says:

    Andy says:11/07/2012 at 11:16 pm
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    he SPL board revealed they would hold on to Rangers’ money in February – when the club was forced into administration – in order to settle their domestic football debts.
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    I dont remember that being revealed in feb

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    Andy, Good morning. I do remember this being said. The exact source I cannot say, but I suspect it may have come from Doncaster’s menu.

  6. canadianindie says:

    Here’s the list – get emailing!

    http://honestyinsport.weebly.com/index.html

  7. wolfman says:
    11/07/2012 at 11:39 pm

    wolfman says:
    11/07/2012 at 11:31 pm
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    The wife won’t agree to immigration!
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    You’re already here:)

  8. Puff Helps says:

    Angus says:
    11/07/2012 at 10:37 pm


    Doncaster conceded that supporters broadly favour expansion but argued that the numbers just do not add up.

    “We have to acknowledge that the popular vote is for a larger league but you can’t just ask the question in isolation,” he explained.

    “If you put it to them that your club will lose at least £1m [calculations based on loss of TV revenue and fewer fixtures] then it doesn’t look very attractive.
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    Does Donkey walk around with a magic calculator which has a single button – minus one million?

    I bet he goes into these meetings about reconstructing the league and when everyone turns to him to say “well Neil, have you had a chance to consider the financial effects of the latest restructuring plan?” and Donkey goes “let me just review the figures”, whips out magic calculator, bashes the button several times and says “I anticipate this plan will cost the clubs a total of XX MILLION pounds” (then raises his pinkie to his lips a la Austin Powers).

  9. CE says:

    Has this been posted?

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/a-16-team-spl-would-mean-163-20m-loss-says-neil-doncaster-1-1668828

    So Doncaster is proposing a solution that will lose us, he claims, £20 million each year to avoid a situation that, he claims, will cost us £16 million each year. Like Doncaster I also have an MBA but I now think that it has been devalued.

  10. T&P says:

    I find the attempt to get rangers into SFL1 genuinely cringeworthy. It leaves me nearly speechless. Doncaster is just an utter fud of a ‘man’.

  11. John McLean says:

    An extract from @cardiffbhoy:

    “Falkirk were relegated in 2010 after 5 years in the SPL. Their turnover that season was £3.8m, having peaked at £5.1m the previous season when they reached the Scottish Cup Final. In 2011, their 1st season back in the SFL their income dropped to £2.4m, a greater than 50% drop in 2 seasons, yet their manager believes their club to be in a stronger position now, despite having to slash their wages budgets.

    Consider the other clubs who have been relegated in the last 5 seasons.

    Hamilton went down in 2011. In 2009 in the SFL their income was £1.1m, in the SPL in their relegation season in 2011 it was £2.95m. You would have to assume their income last year went back to 2009 levels or thereabouts, yet the club is still in business. They too have benefited from investment in youth with the sale of James McCarthy in 2010 helping them to generate a profit of c£900k that season.

    Dunfermline had a turnover of £5.1m in 2007 when they went down, in the 4 subsequent seasons in the SFL their income dropped to an average of £2.25m before they came back up in 2011.

    Inverness Caledonian Thistle were relegated in 2009. In their 1st season back in the SFL, in 2010, they lost around £950k with income down to £2m. Despite that they bounced straight back into the SPL, and in 2011 made a small loss of £200k on increased income of £3.5m.”

    The above illustrates the opposite of ‘armaggeddon’ … email to SFA to follow😉

    As Stuart Cosgrove has rightly pointed out on many occasions. Not 1 team has went bust from being relegated from the SPL. These teams didn’t and don’t NEED ‘Rangers (IA)’ any more than those teams in Division 3 need a ‘sweetener’ from the SPL! Not to forget that it is an entity in the name of SEVCO 5088 that they are voting on – with circa 700 season ticket holders.

    If the current SPL can’t fulfill a contracted payment to the SFL members then it is currently “BUST” and the SFL chairman should say so.

  12. kennymcluskey says:

    mirrenman says:11/07/2012 at 11:17 pm
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    As a way to inject much needed revenue into the lower leagues, how about for every SPL supporter who values sporting integrity to go to 1 game a season of a lower league team ( I’m not going to use the term diddy team ).
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    mirrenman, Its a great idea, one I have done.I did post yesterday or the day before.

    The idea is quite simple as you know, turn up at a lower league club and go in.

    Or alternatively, get on line and purchase a couple of tickets( YOU WILL be surprised how cheap they can be). Tell the ticket office of this club if you cant make it, then the tickets will be donated to a couple of old buddies (sorry).And very much appreciated I am sure.

  13. Cortes says:

    The good folks of Easter Island watched the harvesting of every single tree till they were stuck in the middle of the wide ocean, and then what.
    “Where there is no vision, the people perish.”
    Could have almost been written for football in Scotland at present…

  14. CE says:

    And incase this slipped through the net today, Sevco have announced a shiny new pre-season fixture list. Some big hitters in here:

    Sat 21st July… Hawick Royal Albert (A), Albion Rovers (H?)
    Tue 24th July… Arniston Rangers (A)
    Wed 25th July… Kelty Hearts (A)
    Sat 28th July… Cambuslang Rangers (A), Muirkirk (A)
    Tue 31st July… Beith (A)

    Strange link developing with Albion Rovers😕

  15. Reidy134 says:

    Depending on the outcome on Friday (not being optimistic!) – 3 Livingston season tickets not happening (2 adults and 1 child). Hubby and I are both Scotland Supporters Club members but will not be buying any tickets to support the country we love! It breaks my heart but it is dependent on how the vote goes on Friday. Vote No!

  16. OLE MUNGO BHOY says:

    Walter says:

    11/07/2012 at 10:59 pm

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    Off topic

    I hear that Joe Mcbride ex Lisbon lion passed away in hospital tonight

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    Ah Joe ……..not the quickest or the best or the flashiest but what a warrior you were !.

    “May you have dinked that wee header past the devil before he realised he was supposed to be marking you”.

    Condolences to family, friends and all those closest to him

  17. Always sad to hear of a former player passing away. Especially one of a legendary team.
    Condolences to all his family and friends and those who saw him play for their team.

  18. buckfastswallier says:

    I feel exhausted. Is that the aim.

  19. CE says:

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/hearts-to-get-lee-wallace-fee-from-spl-place-money-1-2406425

    Now did I imagine it, or did Haudit and Daudit and the Dog Whistler not keep banging on about ‘the prize money’ for about three months.🙄

    That’s their excuse for not making any playing staff redundant blown as well.

  20. thebluedonkey says:

    Tomorrow I’ll be different !

  21. Fara says:

    canadianindie on 12/07/2012 at 12:24 am
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    Here’s the list – get emailing!

    http://honestyinsport.weebly.com/index.html
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    I am suspicious about this. Include your name and postcode in the e-mail to add authenticity, er how about NO. Use all your family members names so you can send multiple names, erm NO, that is cheating.
    I do agree with the principle but not through this medium.
    Especially when endorsed by johnny come lately.

  22. Macfurgly says:

    CE says:
    12/07/2012 at 12:31 am
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    Well spotted. They will make up figures, ignore rules, restructure leagues, anything to get Sevco FC into Div. 1 at worst.
    The pretence of truth has now gone.
    Posters on here can show 100 contradictions, omissions and untruths: it doesn’t matter to them.
    All that matters is Sevco F.C. in Div.1.
    That is no basis for Scottish football to continue.

    So what to do?
    SFL Chairmen must find a way of voting them into Div. 3, or at least clearly not into Div. 1.
    Make them do the deed themselves.
    Then let them accept the consequences.
    Dungcaster is finished already. He was exposed a long time ago as not remotely up to the job. Regan will probably leave quietly, once it is done.

  23. Lucculent Sam says:

    Jim says: 11/07/2012 at 10:47 pm

    Apparently the SFA have offered Blatter asylum in Scotland…..

    You must be mistaken. Jabba’s claims Sally has signed Blatter as the new goalie of ICBINR. Blatter would be the final piece in the jigsaw as Sally spends the Yorkie boy’s 100 trillion warchest in a bid for glory in the Sevco league. Blatter is quoted as saying “Sleaze? Corruption? Cheating? I’ll feel right at home here. Now where’s my signing on fee? Unmarked banknotes in a brown envelope will be just fine. As usual.” Much succulent lamb was eaten.

  24. Could you all email accies@acciesfc.co.uk (be nice) as it seems Rangers fans email them as well as fans of other clubs and try to explain how you feel without threats etc, just give them plain facts that RTC is known for.

    I’d love it if RTC him/herself and barcabhoy and other top posters were to email Accies. You chaps can say it much better than I can.

    It would be much appreciated. I feel like Thursday is the last day to be proud of being an Accies fan in Hamilton. For all the abuse we Accies fans have received in our own town, this is something I couldn’t take – allowing Sevco to break the rules just so we can take advantage to improve our standing in an SPL2.
    Please help

    I don’t believe Accies are in financial trouble if money is lost but just want league reconstruction (with fairer distribution of money) like most of us agree on. But please explain that should and will happen later and should not be dependent on Sevco being in division 1. Ask them not to give into bribes.

    accies@acciesfc.co.uk all emails get forwarded on to the directors by the club secretary. Which is helpful of him if you know what I mean.

    Thank you.

  25. Macfurgly says:

    CO will, most likely, end up stuffed in a glass cabinet in the foyer at Hampden, in the manner of Jeremy Bentham at UCL.

  26. Fara says:

    Load onto whatever you have to drive multiple emails. The web forms are a pain. Ideally send e mail from everyone in your family. Use the name of each person sending with at least post code, to confirm it is coming from a real person and not just general spamming.
    ……………………………………….
    Above is the footnote on the honestyinsport link. Quite contradictory. It tells you how to spam and then how to make you not feel like a spammer. Nice one.

  27. john clarke says:

    tell the truth rangers says:
    11/07/2012 at 10:04 pm
    ‘……Why are our judges silent? they have been made fools of by Duff&phelps, Greens, the SFA – does not one Scottish judge have the integrity to speak out?…..’
    —-
    Personally, I’m happy to think that the three judges who have had an involvement in the case of the rotten club ( that brought financial loss to many individuals and pointed up how deeply mired in corruption has been the administration of Scottish Football) have been superb examples of judicial impartiality.

    Lords Hodge, Carloway and Glennie cannot be faulted. They have applied the law, without fear or favour.

    If our corrupt football administrators had done, would do, the same, i.e. simply apply the rules, then Scottish football would not be in danger of committing suicide.

    Lord Hodge, in particular, has been impartial enough to raise questions about the integrity of the Administrators. He has called for a report from them to show to him why they thought there was no conflict of interest on their part when they accepted appointment as Administrators.

    Lord Hodge-and I hope to be there when he does it-will, like a polite exocet missile, cut through any crap in that report. And b.gger the possible consequences for the legitimacy of the sale of the club and the huge ramifications that might follow if that sale is declared null and void.

    If he is not entirely satisfied, then ( oh wicked joy in prospect!) Messrs Clark and Whitehouse might have the pleasure of being referred to the Procurator Fiscal. And, who knows? might subsequently find themselves in another big hoose for a time, in the company perhaps of tax evaders and such like.

    I think we can rely on our judges to be men and women of absolute integrity in their official functions.

    I agree with you entirely on what you say about the media, and in particular, BBC Radio Scotland ( from whom, I may say, I have had no acknowledgment, let alone reply, to a letter of mine of some time ago).

  28. Lucculent Sam says:

    tigertim says: 11/07/2012 at 11:42 pm

    Any business getting carried out at Hampden will have to be concluded by Monday at the latest. After that Hampden will go into lock down mode for the first game of the Olympics on the 25th.

    This will not be a problem. Apparently there’s another empty stadium just up the road in Govan. Most of the SFA/SPL/SFL blazers already know how to reach it. Many of them had season tickets and shares in a club that once played there, as did the MSM who will reporting on whatever stitch-up takes place. Their passes for the Albion Road car park passes should still be valid too. Unless Yorkie Boy has sent the bulldozers in.

    Mr. Charles might be glad of the money for providing the pies and succulent lamb.

  29. kennymcluskey says:

    Nowoldandgrumpy says:11/07/2012 at 11:21 pm
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    Okay probably a silly question but I will ask it anyway.
    If newco want to take over oldco membership and oldco is still in administration do they receive a points penalty.
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    They will recieve a polite but firm GFAD

    Go xxck A Duck

  30. Ordinary Fan says:

    Rangers FC have single handedly brought scottish football to it’s knees, they have ignored rules, manipulated rules, broken rules and even made up their own rules ffs. Scottish football is in crisis, we are all in limbo, there are Police investigations, Tax Fraud investigations, dual contracts, accusations about SFA and SFL gerrymandering, bribery and bullying of member clubs. The list of extremely urgent and important issues that need addressed NOW is huge. So what are the SFL, SPL and SFA doing during this crisis? They are talking about enlarging the SPL, introduction of play-offs and setting up a pyramid system! I mean are we not dealing with revelations of over a decade of financial doping and corruption? Of course the league structure needs looked at, but don’t we have a thousand more pressing concerns right now?

  31. miki67 says:

    Whatever happens tomorrow,Friday the 13th. you can bet that Jabba,The Sniveller,and Swivellin’ Speirsy to come out all guns blazin’ makin’ it A-ok furra berrs. Bommur’ll load up the bomb-bay,Chucky G and his wee dug Ally will come out blustering and yapping,Doncaster & Regan’ll have body doubles explaining it all away,Longmuir (Who?Me?) will pontificate,Ogilvie will be heading outta Dodge,STV will make it up as they go along,SSN will talk about ‘The New Rangers’ and their mighty quest to regain ascendancy,BBC Scotland will have another break in service,and the rest of us will watch the greatest show on earth roll on with no end in sight.
    Ah,Scotia,the fairytale kingdom….
    Ra peepul? Who gives a lyin’ fluck about them……

  32. Fritz Agrandoldteam says:

    wolfman says:
    11/07/2012 at 11:31 pm

    and to SouthernExile, who posted-

    Scotland.

    The bestest most corruptest wee country in the world.
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    This is the counsel of despair. I love Scotland. It’s the country of my birth, and, although I have a lot of Irish ancestry, I am 100% Scottish. I have more faith in my fellow Scots than perhaps you do, being exiled in the south (of Engurland?), and I cannot believe that, of all the countries in the world Scotland is not capable of improving itself. In the 21st century, people of my faith still cannot be Prime Minister or Chancellor of the exchequer or marry into the royal family – that’s not a Scottish law, it’s actually from a mair corruptest wee country, and which with, whose politicians, from both north and south of the border, are quite comfortable.

    As a wee boy, I watched, as a big girl, (at least 14 years old), attempted to cross the zebra crossing in Duke Street, south of Haghill, with her mammy’s messages, between a large gap that had appeared in the drunken “parade”. She was immediately attacked by about six adult males, at least two of whom were wearing rangers scarves (no football tops in those days). No one intervened to help her. I can still remember her mum’s messages strewn across the zebra, and the milk running into the gutter. She picked herself up and staggered to the pavement where she was sent sprawling again by a blow from a burly polis sargent “policing” the parade.

    That would not happen today. Things have changed, because Scots, of all faith and none, have also said “enough is enough”. This has been happening at grass roots level. Today, you can regularly see pals walking along sporting rival football tops. At the scenes of accidents/fatalities, you will often see Celtic & rangers tops & scarves intertwined in sympathy for the victims. The last bastions of sectarianism are in the “lodges”, in small pockets in some of our “institutions”, and, of course, Ibrox.

    It takes generations and education to rid Scotland of the inbred and devisive poison of biggotry, but, it is happening. In this respect the death of rangers, as it was, is very positive. I would hope that the decent ex-rangers fans, who are only interested in football, will be able to find a team to support with the same Corinthian principles of the original rangers on Glasgow Green, before it was corrupted by the biggot Struth.

    Scotland in NOT a corrupt country. As in every nation, there is corruption, but, it is running out of places to hide. The revulsion of ALL Scottish fans at the disgraceful behaviour of Doncaster, Regan, Longmuir, Ogilvie & Ballatyne, and their contempt for pathetic MSM is ample proof of this.

    I will not emigrate or be exilled south or anywhere else. With my fellow Scots of all colours & creeds, I will stay and fight for a better Scotland, for everyone.

    I hope, and expect, that the SFL chairmen will make a stand against this corruption on Friday.

  33. A must read Henry Clarson piece. Highly recommended.

    http://henryclarson.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/what-if-theres-no-santa/

  34. Jon says:

    The situation gets stranger by the day.

    So, according to Duff & Phelps, Sevco purchased Rangers’ SPL share for £1.

    How can this be? Surely an SPL share is something awarded on the grounds of sporting merit. Did Ross County have to purchase their SPL share after their outstanding achievements on the field of play last season?

    Does this mean they could sell their share if they so wished? It’s nonsense!

    The same is true, in my view, of the SFA Membership. Could a club simply sell its membership of the SFA to the Ku Klux Klan because it felt like it?

    I fail to see how these memberships/shares constitute saleable assets.

    The administrators also claim (Section 5.38) to have sold on the history. I didn’t see that in the Assets Realisations breakdown. How can a history be sold?

    That said, I do think the £1 payment for goodwill was a bit steep.

  35. Fritz Agrandoldteam says:
    12/07/2012 at 1:58 am

    I would hope that the decent ex-rangers fans, who are only interested in football, will be able to find a team to support with the same Corinthian principles of the original rangers on Glasgow Green, before it was corrupted by the biggot Struth.
    “””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
    It was corrupted before Struth. It really goes back to 1912 when John Ure Primrose took over as chairman after serving as Honorary President from 1888-1912. He was a unionist and an 0rangeman and pledged the club to the masonic cause. However under Struth it did go into overdrive, but 100 years later the engine blew up and the wheels came off the wagon.

  36. Humble Pie says:

    Do not be deceived by those saggy-jowled purveyors of the black arts who seek to derail your righteous wrath. Do not suppose that they live by the same morals nor have the same motivations as you. They did not have your parents nor play in your street nor attend your school. They practice the quacademic disciplines of the Mock Turtle “Reeling and Writhing, of course, to begin with, and then the different branches of arithmetic — Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision”. Real people are made of sterner stuff. The rabbit hole may run deeper than we imagine, however, when it comes down to it, I have no doubt we will do exactly the right thing. I would humbly propose that we are all RTC.

  37. canadianindie says:

    Emailed today … for what it is worth

    Dear SFL clubs,

    I draw your attention to something you are probably very aware of but might have partially forgotten amid the myriad goings-on of the past weeks.

    The following link is to an article from June of last year in which Neil Doncaster argued (because he knows best) that an expanded SPL would result in a loss of 20 million pounds from Scottish football …

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/a-16-team-spl-would-mean-163-20m-loss-says-neil-doncaster-1-1668828

    Of course, he is currently arguing that should Sevco Rangers enter SFL3 that would lose Scottish football 16 million pounds and to avoid this calamity, he is willing to agree to … an expanded SPL.

    Not that he deals in irony but you could suggest on Friday that according to his figures, you can save Scottish football 4 million by selecting the SFL3 option! But on a serious note, is this someone with whom you want to negotiate or can trust? He has shown that he will say anything to get what he wants. To put it mildly, he does not strike me as a moral person.

    I guess I need to confess that I am not even Scottish but I am a football fan who started reading about this story in February and is regularly amazed at the twists and turns that are created because once one person does something dishonest and another person seeks to cover it up, lies begin to multiply and events inevitably escalate and result in the bizarre scenario that awaits your clubs on Friday.

    Everyone agrees that Scottish football is in need of reform but anything that emerges from a close-door negotiation session in order to accommodate a club that has no licence and no financial records, is by its very nature not true reform.

    Last thought … the very belated financial report of the Administrators of Rangers FC who contrived to lose a million pounds a month in operating costs, has revealed yet more questions of the “finality” of Charles Green’s purchase of the club. There seems a more than reasonable chance that when the Liquidators finally takeover and shine some light on events that the only conclusion might be charges of gratuitous alienation which result in the takeover being questioned and possibly overthrown. It also seems that Green himself has a “walking away” option in the confidential clauses. Yet more things to consider …

    In following this story, about the only times people in authority have said things that seem to ring true, has been through the statements of the chairs and representatives of the SFL clubs.

    I hope you do the right thing on Friday on behalf of football supporters everywhere. Generally, the more desperately people threaten you with sticks or charm you with sticks, the less threat or reward they actually carry — they need to raise their bluff because they actually lack the means to follow through.

    And you’re right, you should not be the ones in this position …

  38. Parson St. Bhoy https://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/never-a-penalty-19-2/comment-page-111/#comment-129767

    Thanks for that. Earlier on I had three attempts at posting the full text on here but none of them “took”. They didn’t go into moderation or anything like that; they just disappeared.
    That’s my first experience of the gremlins here that quite a few other posters seem to have been troubled by from time to time.

  39. Nowoldandgrumpy says:

    I am sure someone mentioned that it required 48 hours to make any additions or amendments to Fridays vote. If that is the case then this additional proposal cannot be voted upon at the meeting. Unless I got that wrong.

  40. Private Land says:

    Hi Folks. A bit off topic, but I’ve been on holiday the last week or so and came back to hear of Joe McBride’s sad passing. I’ve done a wee piece on Joe and I’d be happy for people to add their memories.
    http://www.octavedoctor.com/?p=89

  41. ExiledCelt says:

    Found this item very funny – had no idea I was being so strictly controlled here – now we know RTCs idendity – it is indeed Stalin!

    Quote
    Let me be clear about this – Rangers’ perilous position and the contrived crisis in Scottish football has been cleverly stoked up on the blogosphere where pernicious propaganda is thriving and its bile is being swallowed hook, line and sinker.

    In a deliberate tactic, certain blogs – and particularly rangerstaxcase where Stalin-like censorship is rife – have spread malicious poison to other club sites where a gullible, dimwitted and spiteful active minority have had undue influence on their fellow fans and club chairmen
    End quote

    For those who can face it, the rest of it is here

    http://www.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=823:hearts-of-darkness&catid=110:other&Itemid=618

  42. iki says:

    HoopMajestic (@Accies1874) says:
    12/07/2012 at 1:11 am
    13 0 Rate This
    Could you all email accies@acciesfc.co.uk
    ========
    You prompted me to do just that as follows.

    It is early in the morning and very late in the day but I hope not too late.
    I have my own club to support and never interfere in the business of others but I have left it to this stage before feeling compelled to do so.
    Our game has been brought to its knees by one SPL club and is being dragged even further down by people who are meant to be protecting it.
    Rules are meant to protect everyone and that includes those who are implementing them ….. if and when you are asked to vote on Sevco/Rangers, please say No; please say ‘ Go and join the queue with Spartans etc’.
    League reconstruction is well worthy of debate in its own right and is not to be tarnished by bribery.
    Your club, your fans, our sport ….. your decision.
    Yours sincerely,

    iki
    Postcode

  43. Tom Macauley says:

    Test

  44. wolfman says:

    Fritz Agrandoldteam says:
    12/07/2012 at 1:58 am
    _________________________________________________________________________
    I can empathise with your feelings,but this has gone way beyond sport.Reagan,Doncaster and Longmuir are only acting in the way they are expected to act.
    You cannot blame 3 guys for the historical,demographic, unwritten agreement that is Scottish Society.
    Why should anyone complain?……we have all lived through it and some achieved the highest level they will ever be allowed in society.
    What else can we do?,,,,,,,,,,,lets just bend over and take it like the non-people we are!

  45. Private Land says:

    HoopMajestic (@Accies1874) says:

    12/07/2012 at 1:11 am

    Could you all email accies@acciesfc.co.uk (be nice) as it seems Rangers fans email them as well as fans of other clubs and try to explain how you feel without threats etc, just give them plain facts that RTC is known for.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    Mails are bouncing: “No such mailbox” error

  46. fisiani says:

    The decision will be taken as I slumber in a time zone 11 hours ahead of you.
    Keep up the good work.
    One final push
    Get the vote out.
    Bombard the media. Get on the news.tonight.

  47. stunney says:

    Charles Green spent £2.75m to buy contracts of players

    Charles Green: shelled out to buy players` contracts. Picture: SNS

    Published on Thursday 12 July 2012 02:19

    CHARLES Green’s £5.5million purchase of Rangers’ assets included a £2.75m payment to purchase the contracts and registrations of the club’s players, according to a report by the club’s administrators.

    Duff and Phelps, appointed by the Court of Session on 14 February, have broken down all the “asset realisations”, the majority of which relate to its sale of the Ibrox club to Sevco Scotland Limited.

    Green’s consortium paid for the club’s employees to transfer to his company under TUPE regulations, which protects employees’ terms and conditions of employment when a business is transferred from one owner to another. On the advice of their union, PFA Scotland, however, numerous players have rejected the opportunity to transfer their contracts from Rangers to Sevco.

    Green rejects the claim that the players are free agents and the former Sheffield United chief executive sent letters to clubs across the UK warning them that the players were in breach of contract. International clearance for the transfers of Steve Davis, Kyle Lafferty, Jamie Ness, Steven Whittaker and 
Steven Naismith has been put on hold as Green continues to 
dispute the players’ status.

    The document, issued to the old company’s creditors, shows Green paid £1.5million for “heritable properties”, which 
include Ibrox Stadium and Murray Park training ground. Meanwhile, Rangers have reached an agreement with midfielder Juanma Ortiz that has seen the Spaniard’s contract 
terminated by mutual consent.

    The 30-year-old moved to Ibrox last summer from Almeria but returned to the club on loan for the second half of last season.

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/rangers-newco-charles-green-spent-2-75m-to-buy-contracts-of-players-1-2406590

  48. stunney says:

    Hearts to get Lee Wallace fee from SPL place money

    Hearts are still due the majority of Lee Wallace`s transfer fee from Rangers

    By EWING GRAHAME
    Published on Thursday 12 July 2012 00:06

    THE SPL have issued placement money to each club for last season – with the exception of soon-to-be-liquidated Rangers.

    Ally McCoist’s side finished second, which would have guaranteed them a cash sum of £900,000, but it has emerged that Charles Green’s Sevco Scotland Ltd will be lucky to see £25,000 of that sum.

    The ruling body’s financial year ends in May but certain payments, such as the Uefa Solidarity money, won’t arrive until late August or early September.

    While the 11 other clubs have already received payments, Rangers’ money has been frozen by the SPL and they will ensure that it will be used to pay member clubs who are owed money by the fallen Glasgow giants. The largest chunk will go to Hearts, who are due £800,000 from the £1.5m sale of Lee Wallace and that balance is due later this month, at which point the Edinburgh club will be recompensed.

    Celtic are also due £40,337 but have yet to make a claim for it to the SPL. Dundee United are owed more than £30,000 and it’s believed that they have applied to the Hampden bosses to have that money diverted into their account.

    As soon as Rangers were forced into administration in February, the SPL Board decided that they would hold on to Rangers’ money in order to settle their domestic football debts.

    They’re able to do that due to the offset rule in their constitution, which allows them to withhold prize money if a club defaults on payments to other members.

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/hearts-to-get-lee-wallace-fee-from-spl-place-money-1-2406425

  49. stunney says:

    Hearts to get Lee Wallace fee from SPL place money

    Hearts are still due the majority of Lee Wallace`s transfer fee from Rangers

    By EWING GRAHAME
    Published on Thursday 12 July 2012 00:06

    THE SPL have issued placement money to each club for last season – with the exception of soon-to-be-liquidated Rangers.

    Ally McCoist’s side finished second, which would have guaranteed them a cash sum of £900,000, but it has emerged that Charles Green’s Sevco Scotland Ltd will be lucky to see £25,000 of that sum.

    The ruling body’s financial year ends in May but certain payments, such as the Uefa Solidarity money, won’t arrive until late August or early September.

    While the 11 other clubs have already received payments, Rangers’ money has been frozen by the SPL and they will ensure that it will be used to pay member clubs who are owed money by the fallen Glasgow giants. The largest chvnk will go to Hearts, who are due £800,000 from the £1.5m sale of Lee Wallace and that balance is due later this month, at which point the Edinburgh club will be recompensed.

    Celtic are also due £40,337 but have yet to make a claim for it to the SPL. Dundee United are owed more than £30,000 and it’s believed that they have applied to the Hampden bosses to have that money diverted into their account.

    As soon as Rangers were forced into administration in February, the SPL Board decided that they would hold on to Rangers’ money in order to settle their domestic football debts.

    They’re able to do that due to the offset rule in their constitution, which allows them to withhold prize money if a club defaults on payments to other members.

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/hearts-to-get-lee-wallace-fee-from-spl-place-money-1-2406425

  50. stunney says:

    Scotsman online poll numbers:

    Thursday, 12 July 2012

    What league should a newly-formed Rangers be allowed to play in next season?

    SPL
    690 (2%)

    Division One
    604 (2%)

    Division Two
    125 (0%)

    Division Three
    29424 (95%)

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