What Now For Rangers?


The announcement that HMRC would oppose the CVA proposal for rescuing Rangers FC is just a few hours old, and I thought that a quick post was due. However, I do not have any new information. I just wanted to move this blog-page along.

As it starts to sink in that The Rangers Football Club plc is now destined to end in corporate failure and liquidation, the questions are coming thick and fast as to what happens next.

The simplest answer is that there are too many permutations to provide a certain path forward. HMRC had previously indicated that they would want Duff & Phelps replaced by BDO as liquidators. I expect that they will want ‘clean hands’ from this point on and that there will be fresh faces atop the marble staircase within a few days. However, it is possible that the liquidators will want to proceed with an asset sale to Green. Other bidders may emerge (or reemerge).

Given the tiny amounts that would be raised in a public fire-sale, it does appear that an asset sale to a newco is almost certain. So a new organisation purporting to represent the legacy of The Rangers Football Club plc will emerge.  However, if they are to be playing in any league next season the asset sale will have to be unopposed. If there are legal challenges to a sale, we could see at least one season without any Rangers-type team.

The focus will soon turn to the SFA and the SPL. The ruling bodies of professional football in Scotland have the responsibility to determine whether a newco attempting to transfer Rangers’ league ‘share’ and SFA membership will be allowed to join the top flight of the Scottish game- and if so- when. What must be clear is that any organisation that has bought another club’s share / membership must also face the punishments that awaited the old club. To allow a newco-Rangers to ditch its legacy responsibilities will be to set an expectation that others can do likewise. The battleground is now going to shift and we can expect a massive effort to convince us that an SPL without Rangers would be unbearable.

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5,766 Responses to What Now For Rangers?

  1. John McLean says:

    Forget Bury Rangers FC. Surely Part of Tommy’s .. Sheik ma tadjeri’s bid!?

    I just want to touch on NewClub (Old Rangers)’s request. NewClub (Old Rangers) have indicated that Scottish football will die if they are not involved in some capacity.

    Many fans are being fed the notion that Financial intelligence of the club owner’s is above that of the intelligence and integrity of the ‘average’ football fan. WRONG!

    If, and that’s a massive IF, the SFA don’t expell the oldco (Rangers {ia}) then there may be a Zombie RFC in our top (or restructured 2nd) league as in SPL 1 and SPL 2?! Again WRONG!

    I’m tired … and I’ll keep it short. Let’s be honest. A ‘crap’ NewClub (Old Rangers) brings very little to the table. Possibly 15K fans at home and maybe as much as 3k to away grounds.

    Short term gain ‘a la’ …. let the NewClub (Old Rangers) into the top division it will restore the “old way”, is in fact flawed!

    NewClub (Old Rangers), unless cheating and delivering trophies they didn’t or don’t deserve to win, will have a poor support with an ever increasing chance of RE ‘administration’.

    Lets not go there again!

    NO 2 NEWCO in SPL! (I don’t mind newco or even a SevCo)

  2. Ordinary Fan says:

    So Rangers are planning on moving to the English Leagues. I’m immensely jealous that Celtic haven’t come up with such a cunning plan.

  3. paulmac says:

    enough is enough says:
    20/06/2012 at 11:39 pm

    Rangers want to buy Bury?

    another irony overload!

    can I sue CG for the damage to my sides?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Rangers?….Rangers want to buy Bury?

    If someone can explain to me how a club who owe £140 million..and are in the process of being liquidated can purchase a packet of fags never mind another football club i’d be grateful…

    Now if Charles Green wants to buy Bury…then crack on…

  4. Ordinary Fan says:

    It would have been more believable if it was Bury buying Rangers.

  5. John McLean says:

    SUSPENSION BE THE ANSWER!

    Surely Lord Carloway will return his verdict today?

    There aint a lot of days left before the beautiful game kicks off!

    In that sense surely a decision has to be made soon … very soon!

    Suspension for 12vers !!!????
    Get yer ‘hoose’ in order first!

    JM

  6. paulmac says:

    Cheated…stolen on industrial scale…unprecedented corruption…

    And now we have in a metaphorical sense CG attempting to hold a gun to Scottish footballs head with the inference…forget the above and I’ll put the gun away….

    Outrageous!

  7. Mark Dickson says:

    So Rangers get voted back in the SPL then immediately relegated as punishment for the EBT/2-contracts – the SFL get the re-introduction of play-off’s and the SPL get to scrap the 11-1 voting and change the financial distribution – ‘Rangers’ only drop 1 division not three – yes it’s a grand fudge and gerrymandering in extremis however it might be the best we can get, it solves some problems regards the SPL and might hopefully see Doncaster emptied?

    Of course Sevco Rangers should be forced to apply at Division 3 however I’d much rather see them in Division 1 and the SPL effectively scrapped than the horror of them gettiing back into the SPL under any circumstances.

    Politics might only be the art of the possible? Assuming Sevco Rangers can actually finance and field a team next season of course? …. I assume this also means they’d be banned from the Scottish Cup or else the Transfer embargo would stand?

    Anyone for FUDGE?

  8. CE says:

    One more time, for John Clarke and others:

    As Michael succinctly states, the reply to our complaints helpfully points out that Mr Dodds became aware of EBT’s when his contract was paid up. Thanks for confirming he lied to his listeners, and Licence Fee payers, months after he became aware of EBT’s, and yet still no sign of an on-air apology?

    I’m annoyed again, I will write back!:-)

  9. miki67 says:

    Let ra peepil go!

  10. miki67 says:

    The notion that Green could buy up Bury for some toxic brand is laughable. I can assure him that the good people of Bury,and they’re not a bad lot of Lancs. folk, would not take kindly to a **** from Yorks. tainting their decent name with a team of numpties from Govan.:-)

  11. CE says:

    Rangers relocating to England? Damn what a fine idea, why didn’t I think of that first?

  12. CE says:

    Sevco Utd’s first training session:

  13. ExiledCelt says:

    After 20 years of being labelled paranoid by Scottish journalism and other fans, I think the hope is that we will see the evidence that the SFA knew all about the second contracts issue (see CO for example) and did nothing because it suited them and their pals in Ibroke.

    Then and only then when we get the changes, transparency and open door policy frequently promised will I be able to move on.

    We need to admit there was grounds for the concerns raised over the last 20 years from Celtic fans of the shamboic favouritism and auld pals act going on that made this a corrupt league.

    If anyone thinks that Murray would have tried to cheat his way without assurances that blind eyes woudl be turned and no one would ever expose the lies and cheating, then we will miss our chance.

    We need to say no to the new invention of the club calling itself currently Sevco to SPL
    We need to see the 2nd contracts issue investigated throughly – both within the SFA and SPL on who in their organisations could have and should have asked the questions to bring this to light.

    Murray is not the only guilty man here – CO, Bain are also complicit or sure – bu there are others.

    Jim Farrey was also not alone – but was sacrificed. Thsi time that will not be sufficient.

    We all need to have a clean slate – in SFA/SPL and MSM

    Keep the pressure on fellow internet bampots!.

  14. Dry As A Dead Dingoes Donger says:

    john clarke says: 19/06/2012 at 10:45 pm
    Aye’s 5
    Nae’s 2
    (And about today, if we are in poetry-reading mode, ‘ ….it was, I may say, satisfactory.’)
    _______________
    I felt inspired, Sorry.

    There was a Dodgie Dave from Govan
    who a EBT scheme he was a runnin
    The powers that be said come and see me
    and now HMRC are a gunnin.

    The oscillating fan has been hit with faecal matter
    in all different directions it did splatter
    So putrid the smell as bad as I could tell
    that it was brought to the attentions of Sep Blatter.😳😳

    OK, OK E’m go’in, Jist gettin mah jaikit off that shoogley peg noo!

  15. TPE says:

    Doon the slope says:
    20/06/2012 at 11:26 pm

    I want to write to James Traynor and tell him that he is a complete Phud…..how should I word it?

    ……………………………………………………………………………………………….
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………….

    Dear Mr Traynor,

    Without wishing for one moment to descend into the gutter, and without wishing to engage in cheap personal insults, I must regretfully inform you that it has come to my rather startled attention that you are, in fact – and this is in no way intended as a slight upon your character – a complete and utter phud.

    Look, I’m not one for ad hominem attacks, Jim, and already feel bad about the preceding paragraph, so must also give credit where credit is due: I’m not sure anyone would disagree that you’ve taken haunting inarticulacy, anti-intellectualism, hubris and smug-self-satisfaction to a whole new level. I think you may rightly be regarded as a leader in your field, come to think of it, and I’d shout down anyone who said otherwise.

    When we add this to your consistently high achievements in the sphere of truth-aversion and the excitingly queasy supine position you adopt in relation to all things Sir David Murray, it feels safe to say that you’re in a class of your own.

    It takes a strong personality to remain so utterly aloof to the requirements of ethical journalism and objectivity and your continued success in plying your trade without recourse to the use of verifiable facts or even momentary reflection is testimony to the strength of your survival instincts and greed.

    Keep up the work, Jim, and I’m sorry once again for calling you a phud.

    Kind regards…..

  16. RayCharles says:

    Mark Dickson says:
    21/06/2012 at 1:23 am

    I am inclined to agree with you.

    While not wishing to elevate RTC to guru status, he did make it clear in the early days of the blog that the end game would probably suit no one.

    Club 12 in the First Division meets this criteria.

  17. Weescotty says:

    Well I for one am totally confused….!

    You have a vote coming up that may, or may not be secret.

    The members may, or may not vote for newclub.

    It may, or may not be valid for what they are voting for.
    I.E. As has been suggested the only thing they can vote on is whether to reject a registration, but not approve one.
    Has the SPL asked for a transfer of the share from oldclub to newclub, but I was under the impression this required a another vote?

    There may, or may not be an appeal or legal challenge to the vote from oldclub, DFC, or DAFC (depends on the outcome).

    There may, or may not be boycotts of clubs depending on the outcome of the vote.

    There may, or may not be a league restructure.

    CG may, or may not be the owner (of something)

    CG may, or may not own the assets.

    The AT may, or may not sit prior to the vote.

    Oldclub may, or may not be entitled to hold the SPL share (see above, also irrespective of the governing laws).

    Oldclub/newclub may, or may not be required to stump up audited accounts (irrespective of the governing laws).

    There may, or may not be sanctions for oldclub going to the CoS.

    The ONLY thing I am sure of is that not only are oldclub resposible for this pile of steaming crap that Scottish football finds itself in, so are the SPL and the SFA due to their total mis-handling (and lack of a backbone) of the whole thing, FROM DAY ONE.

    It makes Donald Rumsfelds unknown knowns speech look straightforward!

  18. CE says:

    For anyone with a penchant for men in cheap suits(he seems to have a new one, maybe he reads our comments?) lying trough the skin of their teeth:

    http://rangerstv.tv/viewfree.php?it=10362&c=News&r=236678734985

  19. miki67 says:

    From wonkyradar on CQN. Prosaic genius re. Traynor :

    “If wishing was thinking thy Jabba would in genius’ radiant path go. He counteth thy words like a fingerless man calculating on an antique abacus- thou mind doth perambulate much slowly, like a three legged mutt cocking its leg roundeth a pole.
    Daily you opine, deareth Jabba, inflating rumour, puffed up like thy corpulent gut, with all thine hot & gruesome gas, from thy unstudied larded mouth. Yet when, not too long to be, Sir Minty doth speak: even hath said “the dark side of the moon is made of greenest cheese” , thou Jabba hath taken his shadows as the very sun of science, so inexpert in detection he cannot smell a rat in thy streaky union jack y-fronts.
    Yet in all else thou art pyrrhonism itself, prancing proud with the rank bombast of the petulant bam. When thou art burdened of facts, when reality doth intercede, thy Jabba is most protestant against Truth; conceit his stunted carapace, & he slureth Truth as nothing but a washer woman’s soapy water. When Justice breath of brightest verity doth blow upon the trumpets of day he then becometh suspicion’s most eager son: as deaf as thy neighbour when the Provy man doth chap thine door to claim thou debt.”

  20. Dry As A Dead Dingoes Donger says:

    longtimelurker says: 19/06/2012 at 11:13 pm
    Aye’s 16
    Nae’s 0

    “Is the dam now about to burst?”
    ___________________________________

    Is Adam now about to burst? 😯

  21. ExiledCelt says:

    Mark Dickson says:

    21/06/2012 at 1:23 am
    Rate This

    So Rangers get voted back in the SPL then immediately relegated as punishment for the EBT/2-contracts – the SFL get the re-introduction of play-off’s and the SPL get to scrap the 11-1 voting and change the financial distribution – ‘Rangers’ only drop 1 division not three – yes it’s a grand fudge and gerrymandering in extremis however it might be the best we can get, it solves some problems regards the SPL and might hopefully see Doncaster emptied?

    Of course Sevco Rangers should be forced to apply at Division 3 however I’d much rather see them in Division 1 and the SPL effectively scrapped than the horror of them gettiing back into the SPL under any circumstances.

    Politics might only be the art of the possible? Assuming Sevco Rangers can actually finance and field a team next season of course? …. I assume this also means they’d be banned from the Scottish Cup or else the Transfer embargo would stand?

    Anyone for FUDGE
    **************

    How about anyone for applying the rules?

    No to SPL
    Let them apply as per rules

    Div 3 is not a punishment – its how teams reapply – stop reading the MSM!

  22. canadianindie says:

    “Fiends, Romans, Countrymen …
    I have come to Bury Rangers, not to raise them ….”

  23. stunney says:

    THURSDAY 21 JUNE 2012

    Rangers players could take legal action to pursue £5m in wages from Green’s newco

    Richard Wilson
    Sports writer

    Some Rangers players are considering not returning to the club for pre-season training, because they believe it may undermine their position if they wish to object formally to their contract having been transferred to Charles Green’s newco.

    If the Transfer of Undertakings Protection of Employment procedures have not been properly followed, then the players could take legal action against the newco for 13 weeks’ wages, a claim that could amount to £5m in total if all players decided to act.

    In an interview on Rangers TV yesterday, Green said that the players’ contracts had been transferred to his newco last Thursday, when he bought the business and assets of Rangers Football Club plc. However, under TUPE regulations, staff must be given reasonable notice of the transferral of their contract, to allow them to deliberate, take advice and then decided if they wish to object or not. It is the belief of PFA Scotland, who have been seeking the advice of a QC, that this procedure wasn’t followed, and so the newco is open to a legal claim by the players.

    “A failure to comply [to TUPE regulations] can result in the recognised union, as is the case regarding the players, seeking a protective award of 13 weeks’ pay for each affected union member,” said an employment law specialist. “The union would have to raise a claim for a protective award before the Glasgow Employment Tribunal to argue there had been a failure to inform and/or consult with them regarding the affected employees.”

    Most of the players are angered by Green’s failure to speak to them before transferring their contracts. There has been no dialogue with them or their agents, although Green said yesterday that he and manager Ally McCoist will meet the squad when they return for pre-season training on Thursday. However not all of them may turn up. If any are considering rejecting the transfer of the contract, and so wish to leave as a free agent, then turning up for work may prejudice their case. The same would apply to accepting wages, which are also due to be paid on Thursday, although there are serious concerns that Green’s consortium has the funds to meet obligations.

    “If a player has not formally objected to the transfer before they receive their first wage from newco then there is a risk they may be deemed to have acquiesced to the transfer,” the employment law specialist said. “The length of time which has elapsed between the transfer [sale of assets] and the date on which the wage is paid could be a crucial element here.

    “I don’t think that turning up for training/returning to work from holiday would itself confirm an employee has acquiesced or failed to object to a transfer, but again, if the employee and union have been advised that the transfer has taken place yet a week elapses and no formal objection has been raised, this would weaken the employee’s subsequent argument.”

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/rangers-players-could-take-legal-action-to-pursue-5m-in-wages-from-greens-newco.17936564

  24. stunney says:

    THURSDAY 21 JUNE 2012

    Prospective buyers are a timely coincidence as problems mount for Green

    Richard Wilson
    Sports writer

    Charles Green may soon be wishing for an exit strategy.

    Charles Green has tried to force the Rangers players to join the newco
    The Rangers chief executive continues to be at pains to stress that his consortium is making a long-term commitment to the Ibrox club, but the reality is that he faces a series of obstacles just to make it through the summer.

    The first, and most pressing, is funding. Zeus Capital have not built their funding book, even though Green claimed that he would raise £30m by the end of July. Allowing for a comment to be made in the heat of the moment, it was still a preposterous statement. There are serious concerns that Green may not be able to pay Thursday’s wage bill, and the sudden appearance of interested buyers seemed a timely coincidence.

    Just 24 hours after Walter Smith’s consortium withdrew their £6m offer, news broke yesterday of two Glasgow businessmen – Allan Stewart and Steve McKenna – intending to bid £11m to take control of Rangers. The pair claim that the bid is not ready and that word broke too soon, but if they have not been in contact with Green then the news could only have come from their camp. Given the pair do not seem to have the wherewithal to fund such a bid they are either fronting for someone else – if so, who? – or are a handy leverage for Zeus to set their exit price.

    Herald Sport understands that as well as financing issues – there are doubts that the newco has even been able to arrange corporate banking facilities – Green has been privately admitting that the likelihood is that the Scottish Premier League vote will be lost, sending Rangers into either the first or third division. Such an outcome would shorten the queue of potential investors that Zeus Capital might have been able to tempt, even without the complication of having to deny the involvement of Mike McDonald and Rafat Rizvi, a British citizen who was once on Interpol’s wanted list two years ago, as investors.

    Now Green faces the complication of players not turning up for pre-season training, because they fear it will undermine their case for rejecting the transfer of their contract to the newco. The position of the Professional Footballers’ Association Scotland is that the players could also seek a protective award claim of 13 weeks’ wages because they believe that the Transfer of Undertakings Protection of Employment procedures were not adhered to. This could leave Green’s newco facing a £5m claim.

    The union also believes that all of the players are now effectively free agents, since the oldco Rangers cannot be considered a football club any more and because the newco, which Green claims holds the contracts, is not registered with the SPL or the SFA, so also cannot be a football club. Players and their agents are angry at the way they have been treated by Green, who has never sought to communicate with them, and many feel that they are being manipulated. By taking part in pre-season training, or accepting the wage that is due on Thursday, many believe they might undermine their position.

    “Players have had no contact from the club,” one agent said. “All parties failing in their duties under TUPE, which is to consult, inform and leave a reasonable amount of time. They have to be given a reasonable amount of time, to consider implications, seek advice and come to a decision to TUPE over or not.

    “According to Mr Green they’re not employed by oldco. They’re certainly not employed by newco because they need to have the opportunity to decide to TUPE over or not. Newco is not constituted in any way in Scottish football, so have no basis to register the players in any way. Under oldco, players are due to come back to training on Thursday. They no longer belong to oldco and they haven’t had a request from anybody to turn up.”

    It will only gall Green further that the vast majority of the players would agree to their contracts being transferred under the consortium that was led by Smith and is still backed by Jim McColl and Douglas Park. Some would still retain their minimum fee release clause, but they would be prepared to join the newco and then be transferred, out of loyalty to Smith, McCoist and the club. It is Green, who has refused to engage with them but has sought to force them into joining the newco, who they are at odds with.

    “Case law has confirmed that an employee can object to the transfer after it has occurred – where the employee(s) don’t know the identity of the transferee (newco),” an employment law specialist said. “It might be argued by the players that they had no opportunity to object as neither Duff & Phelps nor the Charles Green Consortium formally advised them or their union that the transfer was taking place.”

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/prospective-buyers-are-a-timely-coincidence-as-problems-mount-for-green.17936613

  25. duggie73 says:

    Meanwhile, outside Bury…
    http://www.ianfraser.org/has-rbs-become-a-rogue-institution/
    http://www.ianfraser.org/bank-of-scotlands-silence-on-ethics-didnt-help-bank-of-ireland/

  26. ExiledCelt says:

    Thanks for those items Stunny!

    “According to Mr Green they’re not employed by oldco. They’re certainly not employed by newco because they need to have the opportunity to decide to TUPE over or not. Newco is not constituted in any way in Scottish football, so have no basis to register the players in any way. Under oldco, players are due to come back to training on Thursday. They no longer belong to oldco and they haven’t had a request from anybody to turn up.”

    At last – someone has defined the situation…..for the hard of thinking (Dingwall etc), let me expand on this for you in simpler terms……

    The smelly corpse in the coffin cannot play fitbaw – it only has flies for companionship now

    The new born baby that Charles has cannot yet walk let alone play fitbaw…..

    Charles is one of those folks who pretends the new born baby is trying to talk when in fact it is wind…..

    Just don’t expect the new born baby to be dancing anytime soon…………

  27. stunney says:

    Surely the time has come for Neil Mulethrower to order the players of Rangers Football Company plc (IL) to do the right thing, sacrifice their own interests for the good of Scottish football, and TUPE over to Sir Charles Green’s Sevco Rangers-like entity, so that the Pie in the Sky contract can be honoured, so that the Jabbas and the Chicsters, the voices of financial sanity in a maelstrom of bampottish integrity-mongering, can be heard once more with their customary deference, and a vibrant, Messi-tempting, strong and competitive bully of a creditor-stiffing Rangers can, once more, bestride Scottish football like a swaggering, snarling colosssus of bebrogued entitlement.

    Alternatively, the authorities at the SFA should step in and declare the thing on Edmiston Drive an unsightly boil on the game that Lord Carloway is invited to lance in short order.

    Actually, put like that, the alternative sounds like the plan to go with to me.

  28. duggie73 says:

    A quick recap.
    A publicly owned bank forced through a sale of a financially doomed football club to a shyster asset stripper who would have been disbarred from running a company by any meaningful due dilligence, who funded his purchase by a “loan” from an investment group of such a size that it would have been ludicrous to imagine that the club would have been able to continue trading and the club now faces liquidation with a loss to the public purse of around £100mil.

    And the big news story is that Lee McCulloch’s future footballing career is in jeopardy.

  29. Dry As A Dead Dingoes Donger says:

    “Charles Green says he wants SPL clubs to “make a business decision when voting on Newclub next month”
    ________________________________

    Vote No. There, Simples

    Eliminate a competitor.😈

  30. MDCCCLXXXVIII says:

    RTC sounds sceptical of the latest rumours of move to England or a buy out by dodgy Celtic fans, in fact I think he’s trying to ‘bury’ such rumours……

    Rangers Tax-Case ‏@rangerstaxcase
    Moving to the English leagues. Dodgy Celtic fans buying them. Bring back the casino and hover-pitch stories. They were more credible.
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    5m Rangers Tax-Case ‏@rangerstaxcase
    I thought that the stupid stories about newco-RFC had reached a peak yesterday. Mark this down as a time I called it wrong. Today is crazy.
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  31. gerrybhoy says:

    Charles Green has not spoken to the Players regarding their Contracts, may this be a deliberate ploy – is it too simple to assume he cannot afford to pay the full wage bill due shortly and if the Players ‘do walking away’ then he reduces the wage bill without getting his hands dirty and is ‘blameless’. Down sizing by doing nothing – no redundancy payments etc.

  32. Long Time Lurker says:

    Did the SFA release a statement that they had written to UEFA/FIFA seeking clarification on transfer of player registration following liquidation? Was there any follow up from the SFA?

    Has the MBB made come back yet?

  33. ExiledCelt says:

    Since the 10 clubs have a business decision to make (allegedly) lets make it easy.

    The probability as of today is that they will have little chance of putting together a team in time anyway even if they do, there is even less chance of completing the season – but leaving them aside for now, lets weigh up the pros and cons:

    (1) Vote Sevco in

    Alienate your own fans – loss on season tickets/catering/sponsorship/car park/club shop purchases.
    Alienate other fans – all others are saying they won’t bother with SPL – loss on away fans
    Alienate Sevco fans – if you are one of the many on the “kick us” list you will have no Sevco fans – loss on Sevco fans

    (2) Vote to deny Sevco in (note not expel cos they are there)

    Alienate Sevco fans who if you are one of the many on the “kick us” list you will have no Sevco fans anyway so no loss on Sevco fans

    So put it that way – easy decision – Vote No!!

  34. Nowoldandgrumpy says:

    I said last week that I was told that the SFA were going to allow them into the SPL by using their dscretion for the three years accounts and was heavily TD. We are now shown a plan to vote them in to the SPL and relegate them to SFL 1. Could they have even looked at this without the SFA being involved in this plan

  35. Avocado says:

    Rangers will not be voted in to the SPL.

    The process is moribund.

    As soon as the association of Celtic Supporters votes and makes public their intentions then the die will have been cast.

    Ἀνερρίφθω κύβο

  36. Hoopy 7 says:

    Good Morning.

    Another day of sunshine, moonbeams,smoke and mirrors over Ibrox.

    When will Lord Carloway be called into action?

    Green has not complied with TUPE but even if he had the company which he has set up does not have the necessary registration with the SFA to enable players registrations to be transferred.

    Players will undoubtedly walk, if not run away, as they too have mortgages etc and so will need to earn, they cannot do that under Charles Mitty.

    I advised yesterday that PL was telephoning fans. I do not want to identify the particular day that PL is going to speak to my contact, as it may narrow down the field or identify him. Let me just advise that such conversation is timed to take place, when PL will call the season ticket holder, at a time and date after 4th July.

    I cannot see this conversation taking place if Celtic were going to vote Sevco into SPL. So we take it as a NO to Sevco, and we have a nice discussion.

    As for the emergence of yet more blood suckers coming to the rescue it is a non starter. Hector will be all over them like a rash.

    I am still convinced that MBBCW is playing a waiting game.

    I am puzzled about the silence from D&P and we still have not had it confirmed whether Green has actually paid anything.

    Interesting times ahead.

  37. iki says:

    Let’s find a compromise?

    They have cheated and robbed clubs and fans and HMRC and local businesses and Council Tax payers and foreign clubs and the Scottish football authorities.
    They have corrupted the media and the SFA.
    They have threatened and bullied all and sundry.
    They went into liquidation and kept a full staff.

    Compromise?
    My God, hinging’s too good for them.

  38. paul martin says:

    iki says:
    21/06/2012 at 8:22 am
    0 0 i
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    Let’s find a compromise?

    They have cheated and robbed clubs and fans and HMRC and local businesses and Council Tax payers and foreign clubs and the Scottish football authorities.
    They have corrupted the media and the SFA.
    They have threatened and bullied all and sundry.
    They went into liquidation and kept a full staff.

    och, yer no still goin on aboot that are ye….

  39. oldgold says:

    duggie73 says:
    21/06/2012 at 5:31 am

    It is rather ironic that the financial establishment of which you post is the same one, which shall ensure the retention of rangers in the SPL.

  40. Hoopy 7 says:

    So now we have the SFL throwing Sevco a lifeline.
    How much lower will the masonic fraternity who govern Scottish Football stoop. probably as low as the Billy goats a*se
    Desperate people.

  41. campsiejoe says:

    Up until this morning, I excluded the SFL from any part in the continuing embarrassment in the treatment of RFC (IA) and its offspring
    If this morning’s reports are true, then they too have nailed their colours to the mast, by trying to accommodate ZFC within its structure, to assure them an easy ride back to the top flight, in exchange for more power and more money

    Scottish football and its governance is rotten to the core, and is never going to change
    It is run at all levels by small minded myopic individuals
    A plague on all their houses

  42. Lord Wobbly says:

    Just wondering, oldgold. Is there no straw that you won’t cling to?

  43. Lord Wobbly says:

    Just wondering, oldgold. Is there no straw to which you won’t cling?

  44. DeRichleau says:

    If the failure to consult on TUPE story is correct, then the effects are probably not as drastic as is being suggested.

    It’s true 13 weeks compensation can be awarded, but it is subject to the cap on a week’s pay, which is currently £430 per week. The maximum award per player is just over £5,500 therefore.

    (this incidentally is quite apart from the different question of whether the players will TUPE to the newco – compensation in these circumstances would be payable whether they do or not.)

  45. wolfman says:

    Lord Wobbly says:
    21/06/2012 at 8:50 am
    1 0 Rate This
    Just wondering, oldgold. Is there no straw to which you won’t cling?
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    oldgold must be the Ker-Plunk World Champion!

  46. Lord Wobbly says:

    not sure what happened there. First post disappeared so I retyped. Now they’re both there. Ah well.

  47. v says:

    Seems like folk are reacting to stuff in today’s papers

    I’ve learnt many things on this blog

    One of them was to ignore anything written in a newspaper

  48. spartacusthethird says:

    Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant
    “Whilst investment into Bury FC is always welcome, any offer of investment will only be viewed at taking the club forward…”

    Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant
    “… in its only one guise possible -based in the town of Bury, and as Bury Football Club.”

    Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant
    And that, is that.

  49. deekbhoy says:

    v says:
    21/06/2012 at 8:57 am

    Seems like folk are reacting to stuff in today’s papers

    I’ve learnt many things on this blog

    One of them was to ignore anything written in a newspaper
    ————————————————————————————————————————
    Such wisdom!

    Waking up every morning now wondering what the amazing world of ‘fantasy takeover’ will have in store for us today: Celtic supporters buying sevco 5088 right under the cardigans nose; Green becoming Shakespearean in his sound bites- ‘I came to Bury rangers not to buy them!’:
    ‘Relegation’ from the SPL to SFL1.

    Next they will be saying really off the wall things like John Brown is heading up a consortium. Apologies I AM getting carried away with the fantasy here.

    Speaking of fantasy the BBC’s poor Chris McLauchlin is getting pelters from RTC on facebook for the content of his tweets. RTC is making the point that he/she hears all these myths and but ignores them be cause they have little credibility under the merest of scrutiny. Poor ‘Chrisy boy’ is defending himself by saying he is just reporting facts (rumours) told to him and he is not saying they are going to happen. Wow! MSM journalisms at it best. I suppose in his defence he at least is putting out stuff that others have made up and not made up by him like Jabba.

    Anyway McLauchlan seems an open guy so just tweeted him that ‘Elvis has just been spotted leaving the ‘big hoose’ in a Union Jack jump suit – bid expected soon’.Which is a story probably more likely to happen than mince the MSM are presently peddling on this.

  50. james larkin says:

    just read the daily sport

    jimmy carr is interested in buying [newclub] rangers

    ….so he can get free advice on how to legally get round the uk tax laws…

    EBT’s anyone

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