Mixing It Up With The Media


It appears that I have hurt Darrell King’s feelings.  He took a few swipes at this blog last night on Radio Clyde’s Superscoreboard programme.  We should not be too surprised for I have been less than complimentary about him.  All is fair in love and war after all.  (For the record, I do think that he is the best of a very bad bunch). Having played a part in exposing the incompetence of the Scottish sports media pack, a counter-reaction against us is only natural.  In particular, Darrell will be irked that I keep referring to his claim, made on live radio, that Rangers players held side-letters demonstrating that the “loans” from the EBT never need to be repaid.  This will, if true ;-), prove to be the smoking gun in this case. (Well there “might be” a few more interesting pieces of information that Darrell has not told you about). Why would someone with such easy access to the facts get the interpretation so wildly wrong every time?  It could not be just a cynical ploy, could it?  To be seen publicly defending Rangers’ position, but privately understanding what has really happened?  Perish the thought!

It would suit the likes of Darrell for this blog to become distracted from our mission to roll around in the mud. So, I will reply today and move on.  However, we can expect more of these slaps as the facts of the case are revealed.  We shall let the blog speak for itself in future.

For a journalist, Darrell seems to have a very short memory and must not be taking notes.  Last night, he described as “complete and utter nonsense” the accusation that he sat on the tax story in April 2010 in order to avoid interfering with Rangers’ title run-in.

Perhaps Darrell will recall the following quote: Untangling Rangers’ finances and breaking them down into layman’s terms for those who matter most – the club’s supporters – is not a straightforward task and much of the information this paper has obtained in the last two days was, understandably, retained until such times as the league championship was won as it was felt it would not serve any good to further muddy the waters when the team was on the cusp of the title”.  27 April 2010, Evening Times- two days after Rangers secured the Scottish Premier League championship.

Darrell might want to tell us who wrote this “complete and utter nonsense“?  Of course, like several articles that Darrell would not want us recalling, the story is no longer available outside the Evening Times’ pay wall. Thankfully, google remembers lots of things.  This text appeared under the heading: “Poison pill that killed the party – Evening Times | Sport | Editor’s Picks”.  Who was the sports editor at this paper at the time?  In another article ON THE SAME DAY, 27 April 2010, Darrell tells us “For the past few months, sources have spoken privately to this paper about the fears of what was coming“.  Two days? A few months? I have no way of knowing which version is the truth.

When a sports journalist is willing to sit on the greatest story in the history of Scottish football for fear of upsetting a team’s momentum to the title, we know exactly where we stand and what to expect.  To his credit, Darrell does not hide behind a fake love of St. Mirren or Airdrie,  His colours are well and truly pinned to the mast.  We can expect him to go down with this ship- defiantly inaccurate in almost his every utterance about the tax case since reviving his interest in the subject a few months ago.  (His stories in April 2010 were actually very good. It was a rare example of decent journalism. The reaction to that work among his base must have stung him).

Rather than running down rabbit holes with those who have been demonstrated to be clueless in the unfolding of Rangers’ tax case, it should be easy to compare the work of this blog- my own and the fantastic work performed by readers- with that of the Scottish media.     There is little similarity between our research & analysis and the lamb-fueled output of any one of the ‘professional’ organisations.

If anyone is in any doubt as to what drives business for Darrell’s papers, I noticed last night that there is a dynamic graphic at the foot of The Herald’s website. It displays intensity of interest in topics by the size of the text.  While hardly a scientific or fool-proof tool, I suspect that it represents the relative interest in Rangers quite well.

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1,073 Responses to Mixing It Up With The Media

  1. Brenda says:

    well said jean roll on 1.2.12 🙂

  2. learnt so much says:

    Adam. Why would i want too chase anyone its not not my blog thats for RTC. you better of telling your (SOURCE) too chase themselves .or shoot themselve if that helps .

  3. TheBlackKnight says:

    Barcabhoy on 29/01/2012 at 10:29 pm

    Barca, appreciate the logic, but it would be a logistical nightmare with a 7/7 split.(one team missing a game, no-one to play) 8/6 split may work better.

  4. Dave B says:

    OK, as Jean and Brenda agree regarding the significance of 1st February, does anyone want to speculate on the status of the Rangers Tax Case on that date?

  5. TheTimWaddell says:

    Will ADAM and Jimswirls please go to their beds. School starts at 9am.Let the grownups get back to the tax case

  6. TheBlackKnight says:

    Dave B on 29/01/2012 at 10:44 pm said:
    OK, as Jean and Brenda agree regarding the significance of 1st February, does anyone want to speculate on the status of the Rangers Tax Case on that date?
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    Looking forward to ST Valentines?

  7. Dave B says:

    TheBlackKnight says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:47 pm

    If RTC carries on much longer then I may be back in the Single’s market!

  8. Dave B says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:21 pm
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    A bit unfair Dave! Although the TV contract and issues re newco parachuting into the SPL have been discussed before, there are always new slants and implications being thrown up.

    We don’t need the personal abuse and minute, word by word nit-picking (unless of statements by Mr Whyte ar the Rangers directors).

    One thing from easrlier, as mentioned by Ayr jag, is the views of supporters or followers of small teams. As I have mentioned before, although I suspect I was not believed by everyone, I follw Albion Rovers, my local team.

    Form its perspective the only effects down at its level in the Scottish football pond would be the slight ripples caused by Rangers being removed, and perhaps a good gate or two as Rangers 2012 makes its way back up the league.

    However it is fair to say, I think, for almost all non Old Firm fans, the big two exert far too much influence on the nature and direction of Scottish football.

    That is not to say that the Old Firm teams are two peas in the one pod. There are manu huge differences between them, but, as far as the Solar System of Scottish football goes, the Old Firm are the two “gas giants”, Saturn and Jupiter, exerting huge gravitational forces on the rest. They might consider indeed that the Old Firm is the Sun, and the rest of the teams revolve around them, and in a way that even better shows the problems arising.

    I suspect that most of the fans of non Old Firm teams would be happy to see one or both go elsewhere, whether into oblivion, or to England. Many would express a preference for which one should survive if one had to go, but that is for another discussion.

    As a follower of the Wee Rovers, I can also offer a few thoughts regarding the feelings towards a resurrected rival. Airdrieonians, Rovers’ closet rivals, expired in 2002. Airdrie United leapt like a phoenix from the ashes of Clydebank.

    Airdrie United is not Airdrie (as was). However for all the taunts about the newness and lack of tradition of the team, for Rovers fans, it is the same old Airdrie. For Airdrie fans, the same is true.

    In the context of Celtic and Rangers therefore, a resurrected team will be perceived, for all the impact of the legalities, as the old team re-branded, not something entirely new.

    Should new Rangers buy, for example, St Mirren, and take over their registration, change the name to Rangers 2012 and move to Ibrox, whilst in fact their history would include such greats as Franks McGarvey, McAvennie and McDougall, to the fans, they would still celebrate Waddell and Wallace, Struth and Greig, Goram and Gazza. And should that come to pass, Celtic fans (and Strathclyde Police) would treat a match against them not as one against a re-branded St Mirren, but instead one against the “old enemy”.

  9. Thomas says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:30 pm
    Torrevieja Johnbhoy says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:21 pm
    Once again my mind startsworking overtime.£3.5m minus 20% VAT,minus 10% Jelavic(he didn’t ask for a transfer).Down to around £2.5m approx and that’swithout agents fees etc,and any sell on clause if applicable.If this is true then RFC have no future,and I mean days not weeks.CW would want cash before he pulls the plug.If he accepts this he’s admitting that he can’t carry on.Only other hope is to sell any player to the highest bidder before window ends,get cash then GTF.
    My unaudited forecast of 2 weeks is looking better.Just need to sort out my AGM!.

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    You are, of course, assuming that Whyte will pay Jelavic?
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    I am assuming that Whyte will pay nobody.I think he’ll pocket the cash and run.I wouldn’t be surprised if he did so next week and didn’t pay Dundee Utd for the Cup tie.It’s cash in bank(although the bank may not be in the UK).Along with anything he can get in by selling in the next couple of days,it’s in my amateur opinion,it’s the optimum time for him to run.if you’re going to screw HMRC,Rapid vienna,various sundry creditors,you may as well stiff Dundee Utd also.

  10. Barcabhoy says:

    TheBlackKnight says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:41 pm
    Barcabhoy on 29/01/2012 at 10:29 pm

    Barca, appreciate the logic, but it would be a logistical nightmare with a 7/7 split.(one team missing a game, no-one to play) 8/6 split may work better.

    ========

    I think you can mitigate the effect of the bye week by playing Weekend/ Midweek which means that at worst a team would go a week and a half without a game rather than 2 weeks or as normal one feel

    an 8/6 split would surely mean there would be different numbers of games played over the full league season, between bottom 8 and top 6

  11. Oor Wullie says:

    Adam says:
    29/01/2012 at 3:00 pm

    Unfortunately for you…….you proved my point exactly by assuming i was speaking “against Celtic fans” when i wasnt.
    ————————————————————————————————————————————–Of course you were.

    And you still haven’t addressed the main point of my post.

  12. Jim Farry's lawyer says:

    Ayr Jag,

    I’d like to get to a 16 team league playing 30 games. That would leave room to have a proper winter break and maybe look at revising the cup formats. There are a number of teams out there that could be in an expanded league. Witness Ayr and Falkirk in the past two days.

    As a stepping stone I would go with 14 first as set out above. 26 games then a 7/7 split. Total 38 games. 2 up 2 down, or 1 and a play off.

    I think there are very few fans that want to see us go back to a top 10 for the umpteenth time.

    That is actually what worries me about the battle being lost on newco parachuting in. If the clubs are happy to ignore the fans, quality of the product, integrity of the competition on a 10 team SPL argument for a bit of extra cash, what will they do when faced with the demise of RFC?

  13. Barcabhoy says:

    Torrevieja Johnbhoy says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:54 pm

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    I am assuming that Whyte will pay nobody.I think he’ll pocket the cash and run.I wouldn’t be surprised if he did so next week and didn’t pay Dundee Utd for the Cup tie.It’s cash in bank(although the bank may not be in the UK).Along with anything he can get in by selling in the next couple of days,it’s in my amateur opinion,it’s the optimum time for him to run.if you’re going to screw HMRC,Rapid vienna,various sundry creditors,you may as well stiff Dundee Utd also.

    =========

    i doubt he will do that. He may well reduce the amount owed to RFC group, although he could then be challenged by giving himself preferential treatment over other creditors. he wouldn’t need to do that as a receiver can do that for him quite legally

    If Rangers hit the buffers he will need a convincing story for the support or there will be potential personal safety issues. grabbing cash and heading for the hills would be stupid strategically and dangerous personally

    my view is that he is trying to keep it going as long as he can, even though he knows the FTT will rule against him. He will then say , i kept it going as I said i would, but I always made it clear an FTT reverse of significant amounts would put the club down

    Pointing the finger at Murray, and claiming to have kept his word

  14. Barcabhoy says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:58 pm
    TheBlackKnight says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:41 pm
    Barcabhoy on 29/01/2012 at 10:29 pm

    Barca, appreciate the logic, but it would be a logistical nightmare with a 7/7 split.(one team missing a game, no-one to play) 8/6 split may work better
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    I’d go for 6/8.Play each other twice,therefore 26 games.Top 6 play home and away,another 10 games makes 36 and also no arguing about uneven fixtures.Bottom 8 also play same making total 40 fixtures thus giving each team 2 extra home games to provide revenue.
    What I would also do though is make sure the menu changes by relegating the bottom 2 in the SPL(no play off chances)and promote the winners or Div 1,plus the play off winners from same.Build a pyramid system involving Highland,Junior leagues,maybe on a regional basis and go from there.

  15. TheBlackKnight says:

    Barcabhoy on 29/01/2012 at 10:58 pm

    Oops! 😉

  16. thesnooper says:

    Adam @ 10.32

    How do you know that the people that said Rapid are owed £1m are wrong?

    How come you believe the Austrian link and not the STV one?

  17. Dave B says:

    Paul McConville says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:50 pm

    Paul, I’m sure you didn’t mean it but your post appears to imply that this statement was relating to something I had posted:

    “We don’t need the personal abuse and minute, word by word nit-picking (unless of statements by Mr Whyte ar the Rangers directors).”

    Anyway, my local team is also Albion Rovers but my earliest support was for the Airdrie team of Jarvie. Whiteford, etc. until I became uncomfortable with the sentiments of Section B!

  18. Barcabhoy says:

    back to League reconstruction

    there needs to be a very serious look at groundsharing. It is financially stupid to have 2 teams in Tannadice St as an obvious example

    We should have a Dundee stadium, a Fife one, an Ayrshire one and a Lanarkshire one. There should be artificial turf, and a community aspect to all shared stadia. The only clubs who should have there own stadium are Celtic, Rangers, and Aberdeen. Hibs and Hearts may need to, but logic would suggest Hearts sell Tynecastle and offer to buy a 50% share in Easter Rd.

    St Mirren and St Johnstone don’t have a close enough club to share with, and Inverness may be the same. However it should be seriously looked at elsewhere.

  19. Adam says:

    thesnooper says:
    29/01/2012 at 11:11 pm

    I dont. Hence the 🙂

  20. Barcabhoy says:
    29/01/2012 at 11:07 pm
    Torrevieja Johnbhoy says:
    29/01/2012 at 10:54 pm

    ——————————————————————————————————————-
    I am assuming that Whyte will pay nobody.I think he’ll pocket the cash and run.I wouldn’t be surprised if he did so next week and didn’t pay Dundee Utd for the Cup tie.It’s cash in bank(although the bank may not be in the UK).Along with anything he can get in by selling in the next couple of days,it’s in my amateur opinion,it’s the optimum time for him to run.if you’re going to screw HMRC,Rapid vienna,various sundry creditors,you may as well stiff Dundee Utd also.

    =========

    i doubt he will do that. He may well reduce the amount owed to RFC group, although he could then be challenged by giving himself preferential treatment over other creditors. he wouldn’t need to do that as a receiver can do that for him quite legally

    If Rangers hit the buffers he will need a convincing story for the support or there will be potential personal safety issues. grabbing cash and heading for the hills would be stupid strategically and dangerous personally

    my view is that he is trying to keep it going as long as he can, even though he knows the FTT will rule against him. He will then say , i kept it going as I said i would, but I always made it clear an FTT reverse of significant amounts would put the club down

    Pointing the finger at Murray, and claiming to have kept his word
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    I agree that he’ll appoint a receiver.That’s the obvious road to go.When I say he’ll run I mean he’ll get as much cash as he can as it’s easier to quantify than possible property valuations.
    Although I agree he should worry about personal safety,in my opinion,I don’t think he cares,and I also don’t think that he’ll worry about who blames who.I agree that he should,but I don’t think he will.
    When the assets start to balance with the debts(mostly owed to him with the possible exception of the Close fixed charge)then it’s time to call in the receivers.Anything after that is costing him money,regardless of the FTT descision.

  21. Oor Wullie says:

    justshatered says:
    29/01/2012 at 7:59 pm

    As far as I’m lead to believe; for a newco to be successfull it must have no connection what so ever with the old entity…… so it can’t have Rangers in the name but if there is an attempt to preserve the current TV deal then that is a connection to the old club and I’m sure HMRC will be back knocking on the door looking for its cash.
    —————————————————————-

    I’m not at all sure that this is the case.

    Didn’t Airdrie go out of business and come back as Airdrie United?

  22. Johnboy says:

    The constant quarrelling with Adam is getting very tiresome.
    Can we please stick to the facts and leave the personalities out of it? ta.
    Adam makes a very valid point about Sky TV cash.
    However, sporting integrity trumps any commercial concerns.
    The rules say that when a club goes bust, it loses its licence. It’s not transferrable.
    Any new company claiming to be a successor to Rangers MUST apply to join the SFL. At the very bottom.
    Anything else means that breaking the rules is OK if your support is big enough.
    That is simply unacceptable.
    However, let’s discuss the facts about this incredible situation without resorting to knee-jerk villification of posters simply based on the team they support.
    In other words: grow up . . . and debate like adults.

  23. elnic says:

    Anyone else hearing that Police in Glasgow are all being warned that there may be disturbances later in week as Rangers are going into admin on Wed? Heard this from 2 sources (one in Police). Sorry if someone has already posted about this.

  24. Dave B says:

    Don’t feed ’em

  25. MERIDIAN says:

    in response to ayr jags point

    What about the following ?

    Scottish premier elite

    Scottish premier gold

    Start with 20 teams . straight draw WITH 5 SEEDED TEAMS : seeds ALLOCATED a GROUP – SO AS NOT TO HAVE A FIGHT
    LETS CALL THEM BRAZIL , SPAIN , GERMANY , ARGENTINA . ITALY

    These are selected generally from the top five finishing teams from the previous year

    All the rest are in the hat on an equal basis

    So 5 groups of 4 are selected

    They play each other home and away – the first six matches

    The top 2 from each group go into the SP ELITE
    The bottom 2 go into the SP GOLD

    So now we have 2 leagues of 10 for the rest of the season

    This gives another 10 games ( 9 home and 9 away to decide the league ) – 18 games

    This can be played about with to incrase number of games if we start with more initial groups to provide 12 teams or whatever

    Also gives us plenty of time for cup ties etc – because not so many games people can afford to go to more games

    Attendances up etc

    It will also free up time if a winter break comes on the agenda again

    We repeat the process for the Trinadads ( annan ) , San Marino ( east stirling etc ) and invite a few from the juniors ( burkino faso) ( arthurlie )
    Etc to make up forty teams

    Then we have an SP SILVER and an SP BRONZE

    Reapeat as above for elite and gold

    Top team from the silver promoted – bottom team from the gold relegated ( automatic )

    2nd and 3rd top teams from the silver play the 8th and 9th at end of season play offs
    For 2 other 2 promotion / relegation places

  26. Dave B says:
    29/01/2012 at 11:12 pm
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    Sorry Dave – my reference toi you was re the blog drifting today (I paraphrase).

    To avoid personal abuse and nit-picking I will not accuse anyone of personal abuse or nit-picking, but, for the avoidance of doubt, I was not accusing you of either of them.

    Ah yes, Section B. What a fine collection of football aficionados. Where are they now I wonder? Barlinnie, Addiewell, Kilmarnock, Carstairs?

  27. frank spencer's banana game says:

    johnboy
    In other words: grow up . . . and debate like adults.
    ……..

    Or like politicians?

    We have reached an impasse, we await decisions.

    In the meantime there is a battle over the meaning of the RTC.

    The facts of the case are slowly but surely being established.

    Some facts are more believable than others.

  28. justshatered says:

    Oor Wullie says:
    29/01/2012 at 11:24 pm
    justshatered says:
    29/01/2012 at 7:59 pm

    As far as I’m lead to believe; for a newco to be successfull it must have no connection what so ever with the old entity…… so it can’t have Rangers in the name but if there is an attempt to preserve the current TV deal then that is a connection to the old club and I’m sure HMRC will be back knocking on the door looking for its cash.
    —————————————————————-

    I’m not at all sure that this is the case.

    Didn’t Airdrie go out of business and come back as Airdrie United?

    No Airdrie went out of business, bought Clydebank and changed there name to return as Airdrie United.
    I don’t think that is a newco. Clydebank were already there they were just bought and had their name changed.
    This is, I think, something completely different.
    Remember Rangers newco is a made up business overnight, has never played a game, has no recognition either by the SFA or SPL.
    To me it is an endless can of worms that will make lawyers extremely rich and suck whatever money that is left in the game out.

  29. Dave B says:

    Paul McConville says:
    29/01/2012 at 11:34 pm

    Thank’s Paul,

    I actually played on the Rovers pitch in a school’s competition in 1971.

  30. Wuggy says:

    If RFC are no more after losing FTT many posters on here have speculated about whether they may buy another premier team, St Mirren has been mentioned many times.
    What if RFC manage to get through this season without going into admin? Admin being annonced 1 day after finale day of league season. Newco then buys assets, ie Ibrox and Murray Park, newco then buys a team in lower leagues in England and changes name of that club to eg British Rangers.
    Would the football league in England go along with a club playing home games in Scotland? Remember Wimbildon saying they were going to relocate to Dublin and not a great fuss was made of it.

  31. frank spencer's banana game says:

    from the corner of my eye, i saw my pulse beating on my wrist holding up my head. i then saw my thoughts move to ally mccoist’s brain and saw him looking at himself in the mirror- looking at how his face had changed, how the light and laughter in his eyes had dimmed, how he felt so heavy just now. like really crying when you you don’t know why heavy. a real heavy that you don’t know is heavy until you lose it.

  32. corsica says:

    It would seem that I am being blamed by some for starting a stramash last night that has spilled over into today.

    I had thought about drafting a witty yet withering response so I went back over the various comments to check. I haven’t come up with anything witty but what did strike me was one poster who decided to raise the issue WHEN IT WAS ALREADY DEAD and has spent the best part of the day spinning it out. Here, for example, are a few choice snippets:

    29/01/2012 at 9:44 am
    The guy asks a simple question and you turn it into a “Against Celtic” thing. This is fairly typical of the attitude of Old Firm fans i have posted about a few times on here.
    29/01/2012 at 1:24 pm
    The tone of this place has most definitely shifted for the worst. No Rangers views are tolerated now by the majority unfortunately.
    29/01/2012 at 5:54 pm
    We really are scraping the bottom of the barrel now for things to be offended by.
    29/01/2012 at 6:11 pm
    I still think people have serious issues if they are offended by…Reading it back, its actually laughable.

    The first thing to notice is that the first comment was made at 9.44am some 7 hours after the last comment regarding the incident was made but after several early-morning comments on the media output of today (I think Sunday Mail was being discussed). So why raise it then?

    Second point is that I and one or two others are laughable and have serious issues because we take umbrage at what we perceive to be blatant trolling. But this poster, on the other hand, has the sword of righteousness and justice when they take umbrage. Remind you of anyone…?

  33. timtim says:

    Wuggy
    the epl route is a red herring ,there has to be special circumstances for a club to play outwith
    its national boundaries and making more money is not one of them.
    There was a fuss over Wimbledons suggestion and it was knocked into touch

  34. corsica says:

    Yes, that’s right…

    Adam, I used to have a lot of respect for you (my very first post on the blog was actually to defend you in the face of unfair criticism). Today, I finally understood why so many people are infuriated by your behaviour. You constantly have a go at others when comments are made that you do not like, but when the shoe is on the other foot you try to take the moral high ground and hide behind the speculation v fact defence. You constantly derail the blog with pedantic rubbish then at a suitable moment in time, decide that others are to blame for taking it all off-topic.

    I did not see a single word of comment or reproach from you when my PA in particular was subjected to personal attacks and lewd comments (in FACT you actually joined in and you continue to make snide comments from time to time) but when someone picks up a poster because they perceive that the poster is trolling you spend an entire day castigating them because SOMEONE ELSE accused said poster of being a bigot??? You are the kind of prat who bullies people then hides behind the argument that it was only a bit of a laugh.

    Somebody posted last night (TBK?) a guide to trolling – it describes you and your MO perfectly.

    But let me let you have the final [edited] word on what should or should not be discussed:

    “Dont discuss it then. I think it is a valid topic that we should all discuss [provided it suits me]”

  35. Oor Wullie says:

    thesnooper says:
    29/01/2012 at 9:12 pm

    Hearing Evertons bid has been accepted for their penalty taker.

    £3.5m up front rising to £6m with instalments.
    —————————————————————
    That can’t be right surely?

    Rangers only recently turned down a £7mill bid by West Ham, so why would they accept £6mill from Everton?

    Unless of course they didn’t…erm!…actually have a £7mill bid from West Ham.

  36. TheBlackKnight says:

    corsica on 29/01/2012 at 11:56 pm

    Yup, pretty much sums it up.

    Here’s the link again . I’d recommend 1-5

    😉

    http://thebignut.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/beating-a-troll-101/

  37. frank spencer's banana game says:

    corsica
    said poster, is, if not a troll, then as defined by the estimable hugh many moons before, a distraction, much like the media and its non- interest in ‘facts’.

    polemical positions have great worth.

  38. TheBlackKnight says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2093558/Everton-bid-5m-Rangers-striker-Nikica-Jelavic.html

    According to the DM it’s only £5M.

    But the ‘bidding war’ is heating up with CSK Moscow and Tranmere Athletic Boys 7s showing interest
    😉

  39. Greener says:

    I would suggest that this blog has now deviated from RTC’s original intensions into a mere fitba forum.

    Barely worth reading now outside RTC’s headline posts.

    I expected better from many posters.

    Corsica – get yer PA to change yer nappy, it’s foo.

  40. Chris D says:

    The Times is saying £3.5m for Jellyfish, read elsewhere that with add-ons it could double.
    Says the Ragers are so keen to sell players, they’ll do it at a loss http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2967/evertonclosetodealforni.png

  41. justshatered says:
    29/01/2012 at 11:42 pm

    To me it is an endless can of worms that will make lawyers extremely rich….
    ——————————————–

    Hooray!!!!! 🙂

  42. timtim says:

    If it is only 3.5m upfront
    once Jela/agent get their cut and any outstanding dues that may or may not definately exist
    are paid to Rapid , Whyte may have enough to pay the wages for 1 more month
    The add ons will come to him in due course ,this should get him to the ftt decision
    and as someone alluded to earlier a win may put him in an even worse position having
    positioned the club for Madame Guillotine

    and sorry for interrupting your flow with my last post Corsica 😉

  43. Adam says:

    More unfounded lies. I certainly can’t remember any lewd comments about your pa, never mind join in.

    I think the only comment I ever made about her was feeling I was missing out because of her dedication.

    If thats me “joining in” the god help us.

    I would ask you to back your slurs up but I know that would be pointless.

    And that’s my last word on it.

  44. TheBlackKnight says:

    Chris D on 30/01/2012 at 12:12 am said:
    The Times is saying £3.5m for Jellyfish, read elsewhere that with add-ons it could double.
    Says the Ragers are so keen to sell players, they’ll do it at a loss http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2967/evertonclosetodealforni.png
    ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

    Think thats a windup!

  45. v says:

    Dave B says:

    29/01/2012 at 10:21 pm

    A lot of the folk who made this blog worth reading have stopped posting recently

    I can’t say I blame them
    😦

  46. Dosser says:

    Every now and then someone comes up with a team that could be bought and rebranded as Rangers 2012, it’s usually St Mirren.
    But if this unpalatable course of action was to happen, would there not be a slight whiff of poetic justice in Clydebank if Airdrie United were the team in the sights of the NewCo.

  47. Johnboy says:

    Dosser at 12.18am,

    I think the chairman of Clydebank/Airdrie United would be delighted with that type of development.

  48. Chris D says:

    TheBlackKnight says:
    30/01/2012 at 12:17 am

    Think thats a windup!
    ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

    No idea if it is or not but Tony Barret (whose name is on the story) tweeted:
    @TonyBarretTimes @Brian_McLachlan 3.5 is the initial payment. Fee could eventually double.

  49. Dave B says:

    Greener 12:10

    Fed up trying to copy and paste header without linking to a place where you want me to go.

    Corsica is one of the regular respected posters on here.

    Has anyone of a Rangers persuasion ever admitted to be ashamed or embarrassed by their Club’s predicament on this blog?

  50. Chris says:

    Wouldn’t an unfounded lie be the truth?

    Those pesky double negatives.

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